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Offline MRdino

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Been looking at F430s for a while and Ive read a lot about people not liking the manual in it. Anyone had experience with both Manual and F1 and what would you prefer.   :ferrari



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Been looking at F430s for a while and Ive read a lot about people not liking the manual in it. Anyone had experience with both Manual and F1 and what would you prefer.   :ferrari

F1 is magnetti marelli system, same as on 360 and lots of other cars of the period, new the system works, depends on the km's of the car as the system starts to have issues and a mind of its own.

Stick shift works, if it doesn't work its either clutch or gearbox, if an F1 system shits itself its one of about 220 components that an SD3 cant recognise......it just says gearbox problem
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Manual, but the premiums on it will be huge now that people are waking up to the fact its the last NA manual V8 Ferrari will make.



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Manual, but the premiums on it will be huge now that people are waking up to the fact its the last NA manual V8 Ferrari will make.

To be pedantic, the California was actually the last manual NA V8 Ferrari ever made, and there were only 5 with the manuals (this shows, a 2010 model sold for 430k USD at auction last year...)



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The preoccupation with manuals in high tech supercars perplexes me a bit. The manual is inferior in every quantifiable way and these cars are so outrageously fast that you just couldn't row the boat fast enough to keep up. If you enjoy the challenge of driving a manual, buy a classic and have just as much fun at a much slower pace. A manual in a current supercar is like buying the
Star Ship Enterprise and spec'ing it without Warp Drive  :D



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To be pedantic, the California was actually the last manual NA V8 Ferrari ever made, and there were only 5 with the manuals (this shows, a 2010 model sold for 430k USD at auction last year...)
Nice, didn't know that! thanks for the correction :)



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The preoccupation with manuals in high tech supercars perplexes me a bit. The manual is inferior in every quantifiable way and these cars are so outrageously fast that you just couldn't row the boat fast enough to keep up. If you enjoy the challenge of driving a manual, buy a classic and have just as much fun at a much slower pace. A manual in a current supercar is like buying the
Star Ship Enterprise and spec'ing it without Warp Drive  :D

That's what I keep saying... Let's see if you cop the same idiotic responses
I love my car. Buy your own



Offline MRdino

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The preoccupation with manuals in high tech supercars perplexes me a bit. The manual is inferior in every quantifiable way and these cars are so outrageously fast that you just couldn't row the boat fast enough to keep up. If you enjoy the challenge of driving a manual, buy a classic and have just as much fun at a much slower pace. A manual in a current supercar is like buying the
Star Ship Enterprise and spec'ing it without Warp Drive  :D

I agree and I think the f430 wasn't really designed to be a manual at all from what Ive read, as it was based around the F1 transmission and its as if they just thought "We'll chuck a few old gated shifters in there". But I also believe the manuals could become serious assets in 20 years being the last mass produced Manual. Decisions Decisions



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That's what I keep saying... Let's see if you cop the same idiotic responses

Don't get me wrong, technology is great, the 355 F1 to 430 is shit compared to the double clutch 458, having dealt with both 360 and 430 (in race spec) F1 units they're unreliable at best and have a mind of their own. I doubt many 430 road cars are ever driven like a track car challenge or GT3. Kessel could see the problem and did an "evo" spec last of the line 430GT3 and chucked the Ferrari gearbox in the bin.
My point is if you want long term reliability and longevity buy a manual, if you want to drive it once a week to the latte bar get an F1......believe me they are over 10 years old now and gremlins pop up....but what would I know I'm wrong as usual according to someone clearly versed in F1 transmissions.... meh
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That's what I keep saying... Let's see if you cop the same idiotic responses

I suspect the responses come from people that haven't experienced a current model supercar, or at least attempted to drive one at speed. It's hard to appreciate just how maniacally fast everything happens unless you have experienced it first hand.
When 0- 200kmh happens in 7.9 seconds or less, try rowing up through 4 or 5 gears in that time!



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