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Offline goober

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I suspect the responses come from people that haven't experienced a current model supercar, or at least attempted to drive one at speed. It's hard to appreciate just how maniacally fast everything happens unless you have experienced it first hand.
When 0- 200kmh happens in 7.9 seconds or less, try rowing up through 4 or 5 gears in that time!

In a 458 I agree in a 430 it might work but won't last

I'm not knocking "current" super cars, I'm just stating cars over 10 years of age will ultimately fail.
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I suspect the responses come from people that haven't experienced a current model supercar, or at least attempted to drive one at speed. It's hard to appreciate just how maniacally fast everything happens unless you have experienced it first hand.
When 0- 200kmh happens in 7.9 seconds or less, try rowing up through 4 or 5 gears in that time!

I'm not sure if it's just with supercars....... A golf GTI or R with a double clutch gearbox is sensational.
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Offline goober

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I'm not sure if it's just with supercars....... A golf GTI or R with a double clutch gearbox is sensational.

Or the soon to be released Kia Striker
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Yeah, but an F430 is hardly a current model supercar...



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Yeah, but an F430 is hardly a current model supercar...

It's over 10 years old now

How reliable was your Lamborghini back then tranny wise in comparison to today's car
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It's over 10 years old now

How reliable was your Lamborghini back then tranny wise in comparison to today's car

No problems but I was a model owner. No hard starts, no feathering, no reversing up ramps etc. Then the clutch hydraulics went a month after I sold it. Smithy's mob tried to pin a $27K bill to the new owner. He got it under warranty  - just.




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No problems but I was a model owner. No hard starts, no feathering, no reversing up ramps etc. Then the clutch hydraulics went a month after I sold it. Smithy's mob tried to pin a $27K bill to the new owner. He got it under warranty  - just.

27k wtf, it's an E gear magnetti marelli fiat punto unit
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I agree and I think the f430 wasn't really designed to be a manual at all from what Ive read, as it was based around the F1 transmission and its as if they just thought "We'll chuck a few old gated shifters in there". But I also believe the manuals could become serious assets in 20 years being the last mass produced Manual. Decisions Decisions

Correct. If you read period tests on the 430 and 599 manuals they were percieved as a bit of an oddity that was an underdeveloped afterthought by Ferrari. The cars were designed from the outset to be only F1's and Ferrari gave in to customer "demand" and offered a manual late in the development. This is supposedly very noticable in the 599 which has an awkward gear throw as I recall. Then of course 99.9% of the customer base went on to buy F1's, making the manuals rare by default rather than being intrinsically special.

I've had a manual 360 Modena and a 430 Scuderia which was obviously F1. The F1 was far better suited to the 430 than I found the manual to be in the 360 Modena. The manual in the 360 had none of the character and "feel" of my previous 355 Challenge. It was very light in action and curiously "numb" in feel compared to the heft and feedback you got in the 355's gear change. I was very underwhelmed by the 360 Modena and didn't keep it for that long.

The 430 was a big leap forward over the 360 in most departments, and I can only imagine that the manual must have felt even more out of place in it than it did in my 360.



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I'm not sure if it's just with supercars....... A golf GTI or R with a double clutch gearbox is sensational.

Interesting, I guess it is also part of the character of a modern sporty car.



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Correct. If you read period tests on the 430 and 599 manuals they were percieved as a bit of an oddity that was an underdeveloped afterthought by Ferrari. The cars were designed from the outset to be only F1's and Ferrari gave in to customer "demand" and offered a manual late in the development. This is supposedly very noticable in the 599 which has an awkward gear throw as I recall. Then of course 99.9% of the customer base went on to buy F1's, making the manuals rare by default rather than being intrinsically special.

I've had a manual 360 Modena and a 430 Scuderia which was obviously F1. The F1 was far better suited to the 430 than I found the manual to be in the 360 Modena. The manual in the 360 had none of the character and "feel" of my previous 355 Challenge. It was very light in action and curiously "numb" in feel compared to the heft and feedback you got in the 355's gear change. I was very underwhelmed by the 360 Modena and didn't keep it for that long.

The 430 was a big leap forward over the 360 in most departments, and I can only imagine that the manual must have felt even more out of place in it than it did in my 360.

But would you have one now being 10 years old in comparison to the getrag of today
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