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Yeah, but an F430 is hardly a current model supercar...

True; but having owned one IMO it is close enough to warrant the comments re the suitability of a manual gear change.



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27k wtf, it's an E gear magnetti marelli fiat punto unit

Well it was the Smiffies after all  :p

They made most used car spivs look like saints by comparison.



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But would you have one now being 10 years old in comparison to the getrag of today

No, I wouldn't own a 10yr old supercar of any description today and its not just because of the gearbox.



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I think the paddle shift of the Aventador SV would be a perfect fit for the Diablo SV. The rawness of the shifts would match the rest of the car's characteristics spot on. It would be PURRRFECT...
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A modern remake of a diablo with updated technology like the Aventador SV would be a dream car. Keep the original beauty of the car though.
No, no. Keep everything on the Diablo SV exactly as it is, otherwise it will get watered down and feel too modern/sterile. Just change the gear change to the AV SV. The way it is, the manual gearbox on the Diablo SV lets the rest of the car down.
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The 430 was a big leap forward over the 360 in most departments, and I can only imagine that the manual must have felt even more out of place in it than it did in my 360.

The 360 in F1 suffers from heat issues buggering up the response from the actuators thereby getting gears that won't shift. The 430 is an improvement on the system and the speed of change in gear is somewhat quicker plus the clutch is a twin plate making it easier on take off. To buy a 430 now in F1 at the first sign of any F1 issue would be up grade to a larger pump then change the actuators (fiat ones are the cheapest by far). And you don't need a specialist to do it, the pump upgrade is simple and there is a bloke in the US that sells them cheaper than buying from say Ricambi.
The stick shift albeit old school might command a higher price over time given its rarity but as millennials come on stream many cant drive manuals anyway so the market may pull the price of the stick shift back. I suppose it all comes down to personal preference in saying that if I had to choose between say a 550 manual over a 575 F1 I'd take the 550 but I'd miss out out on the 360 equipment internally over the 355 internals of the 550. 
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I think the 430 F1 system is far cheaper to fix than the earlier 360 F1 systems. A mate owns a really early 360F1 and he was quoted $28k by Zagames for a new system. the car has nearly 100,000 km on the clock so it isn't really economical to fix it.
I think he went for a band-aid second hand part in the end.



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I think the 430 F1 system is far cheaper to fix than the earlier 360 F1 systems. A mate owns a really early 360F1 and he was quoted $28k by Zagames for a new system. the car has nearly 100,000 km on the clock so it isn't really economical to fix it.
I think he went for a band-aid second hand part in the end.

I did the whole system on the 430 by buying a Maserati system from the moron mechanic in Melb for 7k, then the 360 shit itself and I bought a Alfa selespeed unit new from the UK for 2.5k landed here.
Me thinks your mate was getting ripped off.
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I did the whole system on the 430 by buying a Maserati system from the moron mechanic in Melb for 7k, then the 360 shit itself and I bought a Alfa selespeed unit new from the UK for 2.5k landed here.
Me thinks your mate was getting ripped off.

That sucks doesn't it; but I'm not surprised and I'm sure you weren't either :rolleyes:

Yes they saw my mate coming for sure. He is wealthy, very time poor and not that knowledgable about mechanical issues, inevitably they took advantage.



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That sucks doesn't it; but I'm not surprised and I'm sure you weren't either :rolleyes:

Yes they saw my mate coming for sure. He is wealthy, very time poor and not that knowledgable about mechanical issues, inevitably they took advantage.

I needed the new system in a hurry and dipshit was the only choice, the 360 was easy but what got me was the same part numbers between the two and Alfa is packaged in shit cardboard, Ferrari use gold plated cardboard hence the huge mark up. The 360 F1 system is identical to.....wait for it 430,599,616,masershitersti, audi, Lamborghini, Aston Martin, fiat punto, 575 and I think a few more
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