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Offline sinkman


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Fellow car nuts,

I have been contemplating this for a while now; school fees - almost done - tick; Gainfully employed - tenuous - we only live once though!; Restoration project completed - mercifully; Still not thinking straight about cars? - certainly!

I really have only two cars left on my bucket list; (this is not really true but I am trying to convince myself it is so - Morgan Aeromax?).

18 months ago I almost bought a Murcie; 9 months ago I almost did again and have kicked myself a lot afterwards for not doing so as I had done all the due diligence and it was a good car.

I am not experienced in these cars...

There is something about a Murcie that grips me. My mechanic's advice is a Gallardo is more reliable to run.

I am looking at about $200k to low $200k max budget and will trade either the Bentley Le Mans or the 550 to assist the transition + cash. Happy with a 6.2; don't care if an import (unless I should be).

Never driven an e-gear or paddle car. Open to thoughts on manual vs e-gear for reliability and driveability.

Opinions and advice appreciated...PMs are fine...no rush. Only colours are Yellow, Orange or White (with white as the optimal outcome).

Best Regards
Phil






Offline scud

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Manual Murci is a lot of hard work, especially around town.

Manual Gallardo is less hard work, but still hard.

Both cars are heavy in the steering so having 1 hand change gear and clutch is somewhat tiresome.

Egear makes both cars more enjoyable to drive, but like other Marques, the later the flappy paddles, the better they are.

Early 360s were awful, then they got better with time. I haven't driven an early murci paddle shift so I don't know what they are like, but the 640, SV and superlegover were ok.



Offline sinkman


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Manual Murci is a lot of hard work, especially around town.

Manual Gallardo is less hard work, but still hard.

Both cars are heavy in the steering so having 1 hand change gear and clutch is somewhat tiresome.

Egear makes both cars more enjoyable to drive, but like other Marques, the later the flappy paddles, the better they are.

Early 360s were aweful, then they got better with time. I haven't driven an early murci paddle shift so I don't know what they are like, but the 640, SV and superlegover were ok.

hhhmmm, sounds like an e-gear is something I should consider more seriously.
Has anyone driven the e-gear on the earlier 2002 to 2005 cars?
Is there a reliability difference between an eager and a manual?
(I am not a racer).



Offline goober

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hhhmmm, sounds like an e-gear is something I should consider more seriously.
Has anyone driven the e-gear on the earlier 2002 to 2005 cars?
Is there a reliability difference between an eager and a manual?
(I am not a racer).

I can give you many reasons not to buy the e gear over a stick shift.
The PPV and QPV valves shit themselves.
The pentiometers let go without warning and you're stranded.
The F1 pump will never fail, the motor that powers it will.'
The accumulator can invariably lose pressure and shit itself

The PPV and QPV valves are the same as on alfa, masershiterati, Ferrari, aston martin, fiat punto .
The pentiometers are identical to the above vehicles
You can get upgraded F1 motors from 599, 430 that are better than the original lamb motor and cheaper
Accumulator is the same across the board with only slight variations from Fiat to Ferrari, the accumulators on the masershiterati are long like a big cock.

Parts are interchangeable between most of the makes, and expect to pay SFA for alfa/ fiat over lambo/ ferrari.

Its all Magnetti Marelli and if you do some homework you can do a lot of the work yourself without paying dealer rates.
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Offline E7ITE


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I read on another forum that the 03 Murcie's had "stronger" engines.  Not sure why, though.

Also, the early murcie's had issues with leaking shocks.



Offline mhh

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The e-gear in my LP640 was faultless over more than 20,000km. I'd have one again. It's a lot of car to manhandle and change gears manually at the same time.



Offline andecorp

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Manual Murci is a lot of hard work, especially around town.

heavy in the steering so having 1 hand change gear and clutch is somewhat tiresome.

It's a lot of car to manhandle and change gears manually at the same time.

That's because it's a MAN's car! Pussies! :p :D

Drive them, see which one you like (manual v egear).
Murcie is a REAL Lambo. Gallardos are mass production wannabe's.

Diablo's are VERY reliable. Murcies wold be even more so.

E-gear came out in '05. No white 6.2 cars delivered new in Australia.

Good quality, Australian delivered LP640s change hands for $230k. Same in 6.2 for $170k. I wouldn't touch an import when so many Aust cars are available and cheap.
You make something idiotproof, they'll make a better idiot.



Offline BenC

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Hey you leave my Gallardo alone! :P

Back on topic, I have eGear in my gallardo.  Hate it.  A pain in the ass around town, and when i get going with spirited driving I miss the involvement of a manual.  You go through clutch at twice the rate of a proper manual and when things break, its expensive.  The actuator can go at any time on the Gallardo and its expensive.  I don't even know what the Murci one would cost.

I'm looking for a Murci too at the moment, but I'll only be buying a manual after my experience with paddles.



Offline andecorp

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Hey you leave my Gallardo alone! :P

I thought of your reaction when you see that ;) Girly man! :p
You make something idiotproof, they'll make a better idiot.



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