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http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,,19800348-5001021,00.html


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By Stephen Corby and Tony Vermeer
July 16, 2006

THE Roads and Traffic Authority will launch an investigation into the expanding black market for
demerit points.

More than 4000 fines a week are re-issued because motorists snapped on speed cameras or running red
lights claim someone else was driving at the time.
The RTA says the number of motorists illegally trading demerit points to avoid losing their driving licences is
growing.

The State Debt Recovery Office says that in the 2005-06 financial year it received 212,000 applications that
resulted in penalties being reissued to a nominated person.

The RTA also plans to crack down on a scam dubbed ?speeding for the rich'', in which people register their
vehicles as company cars and willingly pay larger fines to avoid accruing points.

Motorists lose their licence if they accumulate 12 demerit points in a three-year period.
The RTA said it was aware points-trading was taking place on the Internet.

In one case, a motorcyclist posted a notice on a website offering $100 for someone to take four demerit points
and a month-long ban on his behalf.

This prompted a response suggesting that the points would be worth "at least $500 to $1000 each''.
One woman told The Sunday Telegraph she had paid her mother to take demerit points she had incurred after
a speed camera offence.

"I would have lost my licence, because it would have pushed me over the limit and I needed my car for work,''
the woman said.

A police source, who declined to be named, said points-trading had been going on for years.

"It's quite common, particularly with motorcycle riders, and bikie gangs in particular,'' the source said.

"They sell points to each other, generally through word of mouth, or through their clubs, but they also use
Internet forums.

"They use code words instead of just saying `points for sale', so that the forums aren't traced by police.''

Newly appointed RTA chief Les Wielinga has announced an investigation into the practice.

He said he was determined to improve road safety by targeting repeat offenders.

"What's being done is totally inappropriate. It's against road safety and it's unfair to the rest of the community,''
Mr Wielinga said.

"It encourages repeat offenders and people who do the wrong thing on the road.''

Randwick student Peter Clegg, 25, resisted the temptation to try to transfer his demerits despite spending two
years "driving very cautiously'' with only one point left on his licence after a long-weekend speeding ticket.

He said he was determined not to do the wrong thing.

"I was taught your actions have consequences and you have to deal with them.''

Anyone who receives a fine for a traffic-camera offence can nominate someone else as the driver.

But filling out a false statutory declaration can lead to a fraud conviction, with potential fines of $22,000 and
two years' jail.

Traffic police are also incensed by a company-car loophole that allows wealthy individuals to avoid accruing
demerit points.

"Basically, anyone can set up a shelf company and register all their cars as company vehicles. If they get
booked, they claim that they don't know who was driving the car at the time,'' a police source said.

"The RTA charges them a larger fine, but they don't lose any points. Basically, it's a loophole in the law that
favours the filthy rich.

"That's why rich people never lose their licences.''
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i think it's a valid service that the folks in the burbs should consider.  instead of a baby bonus for extra $$, just sell your points on ebay for $500 each or something, that's $2,000 a year.  :tilt:



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i was right.  :D

buy demerit points on ebay

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Rely on a NSW drivers licence for your livelihood?

I am selling up to 16 demerit points to the highest bidder/s.  The price is exclusive of the cost of paying the fine which is the purchaser's responsibility.

Purchasers can buy one or more demerit points.  Upon completion of sale and payment of the auction amount the seller will provide the purchaser with details to include as "Other driver" before they send off with their payment.

This is a genuine offer.   My partner and I have between us full demerit points and we are willing to sell up to 2/3 to assist others.

This auction is for 2 demerit points.  Buy Now at $500 each, or through auction.

Upon successful auctioning of these 2, a further 14 will be auctioned in lots of singles and pairs over the next few weeks.



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Timely :doh: :(

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Drivers pay others to take blame for speeding fines and traffic offences
By Fiona Hudson October 21, 2009

Many Victorian drivers admit to "buying" and "selling" demerit points / File

    * Drivers place ads to take blame for offences
    * Offer money to take on demerit points
    * Motorists admit buying, selling points

DRIVERS on the brink of losing their licences are advertising for strangers to take the blame for speeding fines and other traffic offences.


The Herald Sun reveals booked Victorian motorists are seeking others on the internet to take demerit points in exchange for hundreds of dollars.

One ad being investigated offered at least $200 in return for taking the blame.

A driver claiming to live in Taylors Lakes posted an ad headed "Free money trade for demerit points".

"Willing to pay money for someone to take 3 demerit points from me, SMS or call me on ... Leave offer and price negotiable," it said.

About 250 people clicked on the ad before it was removed.

It is a crime to falsely nominate another driver on an infringement notice, and offenders face fines of about $7000.

Traffic Camera Office Acting Supt Steve Frost said police had prosecuted motorists for trying to buy their way out of trouble.

"Drivers who are at a level where they may lose their licence due to points should be thinking about the way they are driving and not putting all of their energy into nominating another person," he said.

The Herald Sun contacted workplaces across Melbourne and easily found drivers who admitted to "buying" and "selling" demerit points.

Almost 80,000 Victorians have accumulated 10 or more demerit points for speeding and other offences.

If drivers accrue 12 points within a three-year period, they face a possible licence suspension.

A western suburbs coffee shop assistant paid a colleague $400 to take responsibility for two fines - worth six demerit points. "I paid the fines as well. So it cost me quite a bit of money. That was a penalty, of sorts," he said.

A South Melbourne sandwich hand with a clean driving record said he'd copped three demerit points in exchange for $300 from a stranger who approached him.

"Then I got fined myself, and now I'm pretty close to the limit," he said.

Victorian drivers on internet chat forums admit taking the blame for their wife, husband or other family members - for love, not cash.

Melbourne lawyers said the practice of falsely nominating others with cleaner records was rampant.

"It is cheaper to buy your wife a bunch of flowers and get her to take the three points than fighting it through the courts," one lawyer specialising in traffic matters said.

The lawyer also suggested parents commonly took the fall for P-plate offspring, because fines are routinely sent to the owner of the car.

One chat forum respondent wrote: "I'd love a quick and easy $5000 or more. Great bonus. But I couldn't do it to help someone who had done the wrong thing time and time again."

TAC senior road safety manager David Healy said illegal points trading for cash or as a favour was unacceptable.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26239687-421,00.html





Offline frog_a_lot


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i think it's a valid service that the folks in the burbs should consider.  instead of a baby bonus for extra $$, just sell your points on ebay for $500 each or something, that's $2,000 a year.  :tilt:

except 90% of the time its these people who are losing their license or don't have one haha.



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I thought the government would have loved to see bigger fines issued to companies for revenue purposes. I guess they just need to say what they have for PR purposes.



Offline AshSimmonds

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Ash, Aussie exotics was just on today tonight. It is a story about swapping demerit points for money.

They should do a story about swapping integrity for money, they're experts on two-way traffic.

(ps TT, if you're reading I do tell-all interviews for steak & grog)



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(ps TT, if you're reading I do tell-all interviews for steak & grog)

He's not kidding -




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They can't get into the secret forum Ash? My secret ferrari races in Toowoomba are safe right?



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Just had a look on their website, made a quick screenshot of it



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