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Offline AshSimmonds

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We've had loads of tangent discussions on this, let's finally have a place to properly nut it out.

What's better - a fast car you can drive to and from the track, or a race car?

Obviously lots of grey areas in between, eg maybe better to have a fast fun car and rent a race car at the track once every couple months...




Offline scud

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Cheap race car will be faster, more fun and cheaper than a road car.



Offline Ferrari Fissatore

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Depends on your mentality.

if you're happy with compromises, then a track day car will be fine.

but if it's track action you seek, do it right. it's MUCH safer to track a track car.

IMO, it's essential to have a roll cage and harness.

So many road cars crash/damage themselves on track causing injury and needless expense.

Buy the tool for the job.

Also... compare the bang for buck...

~$70k right now will buy you a SUPERB 996 cup car... EASILY (with just a little driver training) capable of lapping E CREEK in ~1.37, PI in 1.38, Mallala in ~1.12. (and capapble of going faster with more input)

It's a no brainer.

Yes, there are trailering costs and other running costs, but do the numbers and decide if you're a compromise guy, or a "mean it" guy.



Offline Paulstar


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I guess there are lots of variables and the perfect solution for one isn't for another. So there should be a few 'right answers'

In my opinion. A cheap (expensive if you prefer) small car with a sporty engine and gearbox. Add adjustable suspension get it set up and track it, get a bit better then add sticky tyres and go back, get better then start to use seperate discs and (race) pads for the track.

At the end of the day take it home, put the street pads and street tyres back on and drive it to the shops / put the dog in the back.  :thumbsup: You will still have fun around the track, cheap to run, reliable (buy Japanese) and you can use it on the street.



Offline AshSimmonds

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Cheap race car will be faster, more fun and cheaper than a road car.

As someone who's done both - would be awesome to get a "here's why" perspective from you.





Offline Ferrari Fissatore

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If you get it so that it handles well on track, the dog will hate you.



Offline Paulstar


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Cheap race car will be faster, more fun and cheaper than a road car.

Had a ride in the passenger seat of a R35 GTR then straight into a HQ race car (thanks to Uberman for the spot). Considerable price difference here. GTR was faster, more g forces, more grin factor. HQ was more raw, stripped out and the driver had to work bloody hard to change directions. I think he was driving the car, the driver on the R35 was piloting the car. Depends what you like to do. In that instance i'd rather pilot than drive...

@FF yes you're right, its a fair bit firm now (the ride, not the dog) but i can adjust the damping with a small flat head screwdriver and we're off again



Offline carmooch


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Track-only cars are also exempt from the majority of taxes so are usually cheaper than their on-road counterparts.



Offline Ferrari Fissatore

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As someone who's done both - would be awesome to get a "here's why" perspective from you.

his answer will include "because he can afford to do both"

As someone that has extensively tracked road cars, and spent endless hours fixing the results of such action, and as someone that sees the results almost all day almost every day of other people doing it....

it's a no brainer.

SAVE MONEY, and track a track car.

Uberman, how much have you spent on fixing up premature wear on your fleet of roadies that do track work?????

DARE you to add it up!!!



Offline Ferrari Fissatore

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an a related note...

another melbourne based ferrari specialist has recently started organising his own track days.

he has no prior track day experience or customers with race cars.

Why would he do this???

Oh, I know........ :scratchchin:



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