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Offline scud

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As far as I knew, the cars coming from an intersecting road has to give way to anything on the through road. IE pink gives way.
i say blue gives way . pink is in a closer proximity to the road direction ( 90 degrees ) than blue ( 180 degrees ) . blue is doing a complete turn around . if you are blue and you come to a traffic light that allows you to do a u turn , and you see pink where he is , you would stop and let him go first .



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U turn gives way to all

go to "current" page 43 I think it was

http://www.legislation.sa.gov.au/LZ/C/R/Australian%20Road%20Rules.aspx

unless U turn sign not there, in which case U turn is illegal anyway.



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taking forever to download...

U turn gives way to all

that's the way i see it.

unless U turn sign not there, in which case U turn is illegal anyway.

not 100%, but pretty sure that's not the rule here.  it's illegal at lights, and illegal when there's a "no u-turn" sign, and illegal on an unbroken centre-line, but otherwise it's free-for-all.



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took me a few seconds to open pdf version..

yeah, rule has variations, but it's actually SA legislation... so I reckon it's right ;)



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fwiw here's the u-turn portion, which says give way to any and everything.

but then the t-intersection portion also says give way to any cars already on the road you are entering... this makes sense, but there is nowhere in the rules that states anything to do with a t-intersection and a u-turner.  :boggled:



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rule 38 says U turn gives way to all..

Pink is turning left... IMO it's up to him to know that blue must obey rule 38



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I think the answer depends if the car leaks any oil, and if the driver has his own webpage to write about those exploits and experiences   :tilt: :tilt:



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I think the answer depends if the car leaks any oil, and if the driver has his own webpage to write about those exploits and experiences   :tilt: :tilt:

yeah...the answer to who gives way is here www.pless.com.au/mechanics.htm
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From: XXXXXXXX, Travis (SAPOL)
Sent: Friday, 29 June 2007 12:52 PM

This is a hairy one. Technically the blue car has to give way because any vehicle that commences a u-turn must give way to ALL traffic, but on the other hand the pink car is entering the road, which would mean he/she would have to give way. I personally would give way to the blue car but thatís just me. Sorry I couldnít help you but I could ask a traffic cop to clarify if you wanted.

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our  OHS Manager has made the following comment:

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( I shall call car A the U-turn car and car B the T-junction car):

If car A were to enter straight into the side street instead of doing a U-turn, and car B were to turn right into the main street instead of doing a left turn, then it is pretty obvious that B gives way to A. While B's change of direction  translates into change of indicator (indicates right instead of left), A still indicates "left" wether doing the U-turn or entering the side street. It is difficult for car B to determine the exact course of action of A, only based on the positioning and angle of car A. Therefore it is better if B always has to give way, because it does away with the incertitude.




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