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Offline Ferrari Fissatore

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2000, buo it only happends after alot of slow stop/starting and on slow up hill take offs

clutch overheating.

could be your throttle technique

remember it is a MANUAL car, not an auto.. it has no torque convertor to allow slippage...

once you push the throttle.. keep pressing it to engage the clutch... do NOT stab and roll....



Offline Ferrari Fissatore

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oh, and clutch mileage is almost meaningless...

bad driving can kill the clutch in less than a km if you try hard enough.

also, a new clutch fitted to a used flywheel will not have the same life as when new. The flywheel must be skimmed or replaced for full life, if it worn enough to require it.



Offline The Doctor


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If it's beeping while driving, it has a problem.

It needs to be looked at.

When you turn the ign on, does it do 3 shortish beeps?

When you shut it down, does it do one long beep?

It only beeps in use when it thinks something is wrong.... usuually, it's just as it wants to take it out of gear as you've been sitting idling with no pedal applied....

the 2003 TCU will not fix any faults, it just makes it more drivable.
when ignition is turned on, no beeps.
when it shuts down, one long beep only when left in Nuetral only. If left in gear, no beeps.
it only gives a long beep after about
30min to 60min of city/stopstart driving
and only on take off in first gear.
If you drive it on the freeway straight after, the noise goes away untill you hit the city again.

I thought the tcu of the 03 was the same as the 00??



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Offline Ferrari Fissatore

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when ignition is turned on, no beeps.
when it shuts down, one long beep only when left in Nuetral only. If left in gear, no beeps.
it only gives a long beep after about
30min to 60min of city/stopstart driving
and only on take off in first gear.
If you drive it on the freeway straight after, the noise goes away untill you hit the city again.

I thought the tcu of the 03 was the same as the 00??

ok, yup, then almost certainly clutch overheating.


I really don't think the 03 TCU is good enough to warrant the expense... but some do.

Just wait until you can afford a 430 and get a proper gear shift.  :tilt:



Offline The Doctor


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ok, yup, then almost certainly clutch overheating.


I really don't think the 03 TCU is good enough to warrant the expense... but some do.

Just wait until you can afford a 430 and get a proper gear shift.  :tilt:
yeah, 430 is on the cards, but not for a couple of years.
but at the moment, what damage am i doing to the clutch by overheating it??
Am i wearing it out quicker?? am i damaging something, because it definately must be my driving style.
also, will the CS tcu help?, i saw one for 2k AUD.



Offline Ferrari Fissatore

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yes, you're hurting it. Especially the flywheel.

There's a chance your own can be adjusted to reduce/prevent the problem... just need an SD2 and 10 minutes.

The CS or 2003 TCU will not fix ANY problems, ever. It just has different habits/drivability.



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The CS or 2003 TCU will not fix ANY problems, ever. It just has different habits/drivability.
are we talking better power, better drivability and less clutch slippage?? is it worth the $2000



Offline Ferrari Fissatore

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are we talking better power, better drivability and less clutch slippage?? is it worth the $2000

the TCU has nothing to do with the engine. You have TWO engine ECU's for that.

You also have a body ECU, an ABS ECU and a plethora of PCB's to give you trouble too!

The 2003 or CS TCU will make the gear change and clutch engagemnt a bit better. That's all. easier to drive in traffic ie smoother... and easier to park etc. Less fumbling and cycling glitches too. More tolerant of a little mis adjustment, but at the end of the day, even the 1999 cars are ok providing they are adjusted ok, and the 2003 or CS TCU is almost as shit if it's not adjusted ok....

IMO, not worth $2k, but it's not my opinion that's paying for it ;)



Offline allanuber


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I disagree. I hated the 360 and would have dumped it with the standard TCU. With the Challenge TCU in it's been great. Considering the relative bang for buck I'd do it again in a sec.
C'mon, do it!



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