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I just realised. In Italian, Super Fast is Super Veloce (SV)... Lambo has no issues with that since they've been using it for decades?
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I just realised. In Italian, Super Fast is Super Veloce (SV)... Lambo has no issues with that since they've been using it for decades?

Ferrari's use of Superfast goes back to the 500 Superfast, which was 1964, Ferrari should be the one having a problem with it if anything  :p



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Ferrari's use of Superfast goes back to the 500 Superfast, which was 1964, Ferrari should be the one having a problem with it if anything  :p

Milk that heritage like a $2 hooker for all its worth    :rolleyes:



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I just realised. In Italian, Super Fast is Super Veloce (SV)... Lambo has no issues with that since they've been using it for decades?

and only in italy can they call a car a quatroporte, who else would think of calling a car a 4 door

 
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Saw the 812 in Monte Carlo today "in the flesh" in the showroom. WOW this car looks good. The new Rosso 70th Anni paint is spectacular and looks "wet" in the natural light and "ruby" in the shade. Interior is a nice update and with sport seats its a very sport car.

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Not sure about the painted diffuser but it looks nice. I'd like to see it in Fuoco.



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Not sure about the painted diffuser but it looks nice. I'd like to see it in Fuoco.

It really did look good in the new paint. I like the sporty feel and will go with sport seats and the new rims for sure. Fuoco will be very nice IMO



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It really did look good in the new paint. I like the sporty feel and will go with sport seats and the new rims for sure. Fuoco will be very nice IMO

Mate, the depreciation on an 812 will make the 650S look like petty cash   :p



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Not sure about the painted diffuser but it looks nice.

BTW. Painted diffuser is standard I believe. It looks too square the back without it being painted. Easy to paint black (or wrap) if you dont like it.

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One of the last sports car taboos has been broken – Ferrari has moved to electrically assisted steering and it's even talking about autonomous driving technology.

Well, a tiny bit of autonomy.

Ferrari's 812 Superfast, unveiled at this month's Geneva Motor Show, has a rather literal moniker – although the company argues Superfast is a Ferrari heritage name and, ipso facto, isn't as daft as it sounds (LaFerrari was judged even dafter on first hearing, though the car was good enough to legitimise the name).

The 812 Superfast won't be available for testing until mid-year. But chief technology officer Michael Leiters tells Life & Leisure – perhaps unsurprisingly – that it's the best Ferrari yet.

The real surprise is to hear him say that the normally aspirated V12 that powers it has many years to run, despite the swift march towards turbos within and outside Ferrari.


Leiters says Ferrari is "very happy" with the feel of the electrically assisted power steering. "This is the best steering I have ever had on a Ferrari." Supplied
But first the steering, something that was highly controversial when the Porsche 911 made the switch from hydraulic assistance three years ago. Many claimed that driver feedback from the front wheels – the very essence of sports car driving – had been reduced. Porsche countered that it was only "unwanted feedback" that was affected.

Ferrari is now making the same argument, though perhaps more vociferously.

"At the beginning," says Leiters, "we thought, can we do this, can we get the same feeling? We are [now] very happy. The feeling is the same as hydraulic steering and we were able to introduce new functions. This is the best steering I have ever had on a Ferrari."


All grunt, and Italian styling. "I am convinced a customer of Ferrari buys a Ferrari because he wants to drive," says the company's chief technology officer, Michael Leiters. Supplied
Leiters, a German who came to Ferrari from Porsche in early 2014, says electric steering will be fitted to all Ferrari models in time because of its efficiency gains, the reduction of unwanted feedback and better self-centring – plus those "new functions".

This brings us to the autonomy question.

Enter automation

"I am convinced a customer of Ferrari buys a Ferrari because he wants to drive," Leiters says. "However there will be some aspects of automation that will be necessary from a legislation point of view. [For example], predictive emergency braking – there is already discussion that that will be the next level of the ABS [antilock braking system].


The vehicle dynamics are tremendous – "we have the combination of this electric power steering and the rear-wheel drive/rear-wheel steering system", says Leiters. Bloomberg
"We are convinced … we will be able to find technologies we can use to increase control of the car that we can also use to increase the fun-to-drive [factor] for customers."

He says the 812's electric steering already has a function "not to steer automatically but to invite the customer to steer in a special way, so if you come to the limit, the steering wheel invites you to open or to close a little bit of the steering angle".

In other words, the 812 will give feedback through the wheel, encouraging drivers to alter their behaviour without ever usurping their control.

"The vehicle dynamics are tremendous because we have the combination of this electric power steering and the rear-wheel drive/rear-wheel steering system. The customer is more comfortable to go to the limit, because that is our philosophy – to help drivers go to the limit."

Leiters can't imagine a Ferrari that drives itself, even in heavy traffic, "unless there is legislation [that makes us] do this".

The 812's 6.5-litre V12 develops 588kW and 718Nm, making it the most powerful naturally aspirated engine in the history of Ferrari road cars, and possibly all road cars. (Yes, boutique car companies make certain claims, but…)

Leiters insists it is not the end of the line, even though Ferrari's V8 models and some rival V12s have adopted turbo-charging recently.

"We can improve again. We are trying to continue work on our V12 aspirated engines. It's a nice challenge not only to increase the power but also to fulfil all the legislation."

That V12 magic

When it comes to sound, "there is no alternative to a V12 aspirated engine … we know our customers are passionate for the V12 engines".

Nonetheless, petrol-electric hybridisation – already used in the LaFerrari limited-edition hypercar – is coming to regular models, primarily to improve performance. "In one respect it is easy because you get additional low-end torque but you are putting a lot of weight on the car," Leiters says.

"We are working very hard on the question of how we can reduce the weight – what is the right ratio between the electrification and the combustion powertrains.

"Anyway, we won't have the ability to compensate just within the powertrain, so we have to think of different architectures, and in terms of the body."

Mercedes-AMG has announced plans to put an F1 hybrid drivetrain into a road-going hypercar, but Leiters says that won't work for Ferrari. The company wants a "certain level of all-day driveability" for their current models (their F1 engine would require 8000 to 10,000 revs just to start), and they have no plans to do another hypercar until there is a step-change in technology.

Nonetheless, "we are working concretely on hybrid cars", he says.

Another feature Ferrari is working to improve is the HMI, or human machine interface. It's another way of saying the company has had famously bad navigation systems and telephone integration, and a dearth of driver aids. The recent GTC4Lusso four-seater tourer was a solid attempt to improve things and the 812 takes that a step further.

Leiters admits the days are over when Ferrari can have poor systems. "We have to use new technologies with HMI. We want it to be a core value of Ferrari. I want to be the leader, with an HMI that supports the driver ... with all the information he needs to control the car in a confident way."

One obvious change would be a heads-up display, enabling the driver to spend more time looking at the road. The 812 does not have a HUD available, nor blind spot detection, despite the restricted rear three-quarters view.

"Maybe a head's-up display is coming soon," Leiters says with a smile. "I'm convinced we have to have a certain level of driver-assistance systems – though maybe not blind spot detection."



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