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Offline looney


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irrespective of the argy bargy between our mates in here.

the issue of cars being too fast is definitely one of concern. I think i commented on a video of an F12 some time ago that it was frightening that  a car capable of such speeds is readily available to anyone these days.

I'm not supportive of a nanny state kind of approach, however i do wonder if the legislators will eventually put some sort of foot down.



Offline Ferrari Fissatore

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^^^^^conversation should have ended here. It's just physics.

Even with a 25kph higher exit speed the max is only 9 kph higher. 30 kph more is just impossible.

There's just nothing more to say.

The physics may be sound, but your data/maths is wrong.

The straight is how long? And how long is full throttle applied?



Offline Steve355F1


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Actually, that's not true either. GPS lags quite badly during acceleration.

Which means that if it IS data from the GPS, the speed could actually be higher than 281kmh.

Sounds like it's more likely coming from the speedo, though.



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Which means that if it IS data from the GPS, the speed could actually be higher than 281kmh.

Sounds like it's more likely coming from the speedo, though.

Yes correct. I'm just saying it wouldn't be accurate if it's a gps reading.

What Phil is overlooking is that there is very little difference in top end performance of an Enzo, F40 and 458, in this example at least (one corner to another). I know an f40 did 260. I know an Enzo did 270. A 458 doing 300 in the same situation is impossible.
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Offline Ferrari Fissatore

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Yes correct. I'm just saying it wouldn't be accurate if it's a gps reading.

What Phil is overlooking in my opinion, is that there is very little difference, in my opinion,  in top end performance of an Enzo, F40 and 458, in this example at least (one corner to another). I was told an f40 did 260,. I was told an Enzo did 270. A 458 doing 300 in the same situation is impossible for me to comprehend

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http://youtu.be/qhLlXvkm65Y




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Steve was talking about the inbuilt GPS in the 458. Try to keep up.

Irrelevant to my comment.

The 301 figure is from vbox.



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Irrelevant to my comment.



Actually, your comment to Steve was irrelevant to his post.
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Actually, your comment to Steve was irrelevant to his post.

Wrong AGAIN!

He asked where the speed displayed came from.

I replied directly to his question, by saying I think it come from the average of the two front wheel signals. And regardless whether I'm right or wrong with that, it's still relevant to his question.

You've really lost the plot here.



Offline dkabab

Yes correct. I'm just saying it wouldn't be accurate if it's a gps reading.

What Phil is overlooking is that there is very little difference in top end performance of an Enzo, F40 and 458, in this example at least (one corner to another). I know an f40 did 260. I know an Enzo did 270. A 458 doing 300 in the same situation is impossible.

not that i really care about how fast a car was doing on PI, but the 458 is a quick car, not sure on its top speed on the track, but if you look at fiorano times, the 458 is quicker than the f40, f50 and equal to the enzo....

1.   Ferrari LaFerrari   1:20.00
2.   Ferrari F12 Berlinetta   1:23.00   
3.   Ferrari 458 Speciale   1:23.50   
4.   Ferrari 599 GTO   1:24.00   
5.   Ferrari Enzo   1:24.90   
6.   Ferrari 458 Italia   1:25.00   
.   
11.   Ferrari F50   1:27.00   
.
14.   Ferrari F40   1:29.60

Is it possible the enzo could do 290-300 in the same situation but with a racing driver who isn't afraid to bin it, pushing it....?

I'm sure the limiting factor for most hypercars is the little voice on your shoulder reminding you what you're driving.



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Is a speciale really only 1.5 faster than an Italia? Wow.

And an Italia is nearly 5 seconds faster than an F40

 :eek:



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