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He was probably just being polite :p

All Testarossa owners use that excuse when quizzed on it! To cover their embarrassment!

They're worlds apart. Much of the gap can be bridged with upgrades to a Trossa, but not all.

A 512TR needs no upgrades to drive much more nicely, be a nicer place to sit, be more reliable and look better than a TRossa....



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But isn't the original usually more collectible?

Not judging by pricing in this model range.

UK prices are a good guide at present. TR and M about 30% more than Trossa

And who'd have a Mondial 8 over a Mondial T???



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i disagree ff.

Years ago i would have agreed that the 512M was the most collectible

But recently the original single mirror single nut TR (sorry Testarossa) is coming up in price and is well sought after.

Now I don't have a single mirror, so i have absolutely nothing to gain from my comments.
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Just look in the best comparable market... which is pistonheads in uk...

I guess we can debate collectability, but if you go on values, which is generally defined by collectability, then you'll see the trend clearly in that market.

You have things like this

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/ferrari/512/ferrari-512-f512-tr-2-owner-low-mileage/354977


Comparing to this...

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/ferrari/testarossa/ferrari-testarossa-4-700-miles/1945318

I could have picked greater extremes too, but in that example, the price gap is very clear.

If you go to the most extreme case the other way, even the very best Testarossa is barely as valuable as the worst 512



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compare apples with apples dude.

That's a LHD testarossa which is as common as a foreskin. Over 7000 produced in the series

Get a price on a low Km RHD where only a total of approx 400 produced in the series.

A RHD single mirror was worth at best 20k pounds 5 years ago.
Today they are worth at least double.

512TR and 512M have stayed at the same price or in some cases gone down in price.

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compare apples with apples dude.

That's a LHD testarossa which is as common as a foreskin. Over 7000 produced in the series

Get a price on a low Km RHD where only a total of approx 400 produced in the series.

A RHD single mirror was worth at best 20k pounds 5 years ago.
Today they are worth at least double.

512TR and 512M have stayed at the same price or in some cases gone down in price.

see edit, I reaslised LHD after I posted

and no, I think you'll find trossa trebled! But your numbers on tr and M are wrong, they have also gone up in line with trossa



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The Trossa in my edit is a peach... under 5000 miles! AND a 1991 model, which is the most valuable.

But still 20,000 pounds (~25%) cheaper than the treble miles 512TR.... And 30,000 cheaper than an equivalent F512M



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see edit, I reaslised LHD after I posted

and no, I think you'll find trossa trebled! But your numbers on tr and M are wrong, they have also gone up in line with trossa

Nope your wrong..when i was looking 6 years ago 512M and 512TR were about the same price as today. If anything they have decreased a little in price.

You will see a good LHD Testarossa single mirror is fetching more that the 87 single nut and the 5 nut models.

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err...

your own example shows the trossa to be about 60% cheaper than the F512M! Maybe even more I think... the price is in $ not pounds like the rest.

I'd say apples/apples the gap is more like 25 to 40%



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