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#10 - Thu, 20 Sep, 2007 - 08:44

i think you missed the point. the point is that the PPI DIDN'T say serious rust..it was sort of glossed over...understated....in a "let's get this car sold" sort of way. (at least, that's the way *I* read it)

The PPI said how the radiator and rust could "snowball into a significant repair"

What did you expect... an itemised quote? Dream on.

And as for getting the car sold... err... if the previous owner had kept it.. I would have done the repairs..

so making it sell to another state was actually not in my best interests, if you want to analyse it like that.....

and further, for the benefit of Moretti and anyone..

when you buy a 25 year old Ferrari... there will be LOTS of rust all over the place... most of it just superficial surface stuff on any number of components and panels.

It is a practical impossibility to itemise all rust... so I only mention the rust that requires attention... thats what a PPI is for... to find out what is good and bad about the car that effects purchase and ownership.

and even further... in this case, I knew that Moretti had not only discussed much about the car with other people (Carl888 and others?), he had already driven it too... so my PPI was written with that knowledge in mind...
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#11 - Thu, 20 Sep, 2007 - 09:13

The PPI said how the radiator and rust could "snowball into a significant repair"

What did you expect... an itemised quote? Dream on.

And as for getting the car sold... err... if the previous owner had kept it.. I would have done the repairs..

so making it sell to another state was actually not in my best interests, if you want to analyse it like that.....


listen, philbert....the report should have said "there's rust in the chassis rail that's big enough to put your fist through, and it's structurally unsound and would fail a roadworthy. This could snowball into a significant repair"

can you see the difference? ANYTHING with a ferrari can snowball into a significant repair.

your wording was, at best, misleading.

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#12 - Thu, 20 Sep, 2007 - 09:18

And as for getting the car sold... err... if the previous owner had kept it.. I would have done the repairs..

that would have been very unlucky for the previous owner as you obviously know how to charge but not fix :

item 1. intermittent cutting out of the car

you "changed a terminal block", fault still there after I bought it and was fixed for a shit load less by Marc Jones AND properly (he found and fixed it so quickly that he didn't even bill me for it !)

item 2. the clutch was behaving strangely

you drove it around , said nothing was wrong but Marc AGAIN found a large washer floating around in the clutch/pressureplate housing

There are other examples but I'm sure with your delusional outlook on the world it was all my fault, at least Carl had the decency to offer to go halves in the rust repairs for his oversights but with you it is always the OTHER guy's problem as it was with the gearbox you bought off me and then complained about the "burnt" gear due to the oil not being changed every year !!!  As if I would know if the gear was "burnt" in a 30 year old car that I had owned for 7 years and had it serviced at John Cants every year, I don't take it home and pull the gearbox out to check if they have changed the oil and I don't call people thieves like I have you calling me in emails, or does Robbing Bastard mean something different in your version of English


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#13 - Thu, 20 Sep, 2007 - 09:19


Keeping things in context, which is a problem for the stupid it would seem, the WHOLE paragraph says how the radiator is leaking and "may" be repairable, and the same paragraph says how there is rust AROUND the support brackets (thereby pointing out where to look to see  for yourself)...

ANY normal person of sound mind would have had an alarm bell ring with that... Not only is the radiator leaking requiring immediate repair (ie removal), removing the leaking radiator will immediately involve attending to the rust.

All aspects of your "problems" were not only found, they were pin pointed 100% accurately.

You chose to proceed without even contacting me to follow up the findings...



can you not see the problem with all that?

Why would anyone need to be looking at the rust? That's what you were paid to do, and your report didn't adequately describe the situation at all.

why would any normal person have alarm bells when such serious rust (which has been fixed perfectly now) is so understated? If YOU, as the person paid to do the PPI didn't make much of a fuss about it, why would the non mechanic owner know to?
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#14 - Thu, 20 Sep, 2007 - 09:28

that would have been very unlucky for the previous owner as you obviously know how to charge but not fix :

item 1. intermittent cutting out of the car

you "changed a terminal block", fault still there after I bought it and was fixed for a shit load less by Marc Jones AND properly (he found and fixed it so quickly that he didn't even bill me for it !)

item 2. the clutch was behaving strangely

you drove it around , said nothing was wrong but Marc AGAIN found a large washer floating around in the clutch/pressureplate housing

There are other examples but I'm sure with your delusional outlook on the world it was all my fault, at least Carl had the decency to offer to go halves in the rust repairs for his oversights but with you it is always the OTHER guy's problem as it was with the gearbox you bought off me and then complained about the "burnt" gear due to the oil not being changed every year !!!  As if I would know if the gear was "burnt" in a 30 year old car that I had owned for 7 years and had it serviced at John Cants every year, I don't take it home and pull the gearbox out to check if they have changed the oil and I don't call people thieves like I have you calling me in emails, or does Robbing Bastard mean something different in your version of English



you poor sad little man.

All the repairs I did were effective. The cutting out was a problem that I fixed and it went away, Simple as that. if it came back, it was due to another problem.

Clutch... err read the PPI.. last paragrapgh..

"The clutch has an intermittant binding felt when hot. No apparent fault is evident externally, so I suspect wear on the clutch release sleeve inside the bell housing, but cannot be certain."... so I was kind of close eh?... intermittant problem, nothing visible outside, but felt like something wrong inside....

Your gearbox I bought... the gears MUST have been whining and noisy (hmmmmm)...... Either you (or anyone that worked on it for you) didn't know what a 308 gearbox should sound and feel like, or you lied to me.

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#15 - Thu, 20 Sep, 2007 - 09:31

or you lied to me.

lol...coming from the queen of lies!

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#16 - Thu, 20 Sep, 2007 - 09:42

you poor sad little man.

All the repairs I did were effective. The cutting out was a problem that I fixed and it went away, Simple as that. if it came back, it was due to another problem.

the only effective thing about you is your bills you pathetic bastard, everything that happens MUST be someone else's fault, well PP was in the car with me one day when the car just stopped and although I didn't know it, by pulling the relays out and pushing them back in that was making a loose wire reconnect and off it would go, NOTHING to do with the terminal block you wanker, Marc pulled the relay card out , saw the loose wire to the FUEL PUMP (oh derr) and crimped it in and all has been fine now for over a year but you charged Larry over a grand and it was still there !!!

Clutch... err read the PPI.. last paragrapgh..

"The clutch has an intermittant binding felt when hot. No apparent fault is evident externally, so I suspect wear on the clutch release sleeve inside the bell housing, but cannot be certain."... so I was kind of close eh?... intermittant problem, nothing visible outside, but felt like something wrong inside....

well the clutch is attached to the car and the PPI was done on the car so you must have been close to the car at some time during the PPI process !!

your logic astounds me at just how stupid you really are


Your gearbox I bought... the gears MUST have been whining and noisy (hmmmmm)...... Either you (or anyone that worked on it for you) didn't know what a 308 gearbox should sound and feel like, or you lied to me.

that gearbox was in the same condition I bought it in and as it was only the 3rd Ferrari I had driven then my understanding of normal 30yo gboxes is poor but I NEVER LIED, are you calling me a liar as well as a robbing bastard now , watch what you're saying here , I have never in my life deceived anyone or been unfair in my dealings with you or anyone else and you said yourself at the very start of the deal that there were no guarantees with an engine that came out of a rolled car or have you conveniently forgotten that

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#17 - Thu, 20 Sep, 2007 - 09:44

this is fun, isn't it??

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#18 - Thu, 20 Sep, 2007 - 09:51

while we're on the subject, did i ever mention that the photo that's currently my avatar is my favourite ever photo of the 355?

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#19 - Thu, 20 Sep, 2007 - 09:52

while we're on the subject, did i ever mention that the photo that's currently my avatar is my favourite ever photo of the 355?

actually, no

but now you mention it, its not half bad!

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