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Offline mtarone


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A friend of mine is looking for a 2 seater and the F430 looks a very interesting option, amongst others in this segment.

I was hoping the Ferrari experts here might be able to shed some light on, what years are the ones to go for (or avoid), things to look out for, F1 or manual, any serious mechanical/engineering flaws?

Obviously he would PPI anything that is be seriously considered, just want to get a feel on the car as a whole.

Any owners thoughts and experiences would be appreciated as well.



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Personally I don't see the point of a manual clutch 430, the f1 is where a lot/most of the improvements are over manual clutch, I wouldn't bother about the common misconception about reduced clutch ware and the f1 pump being a problem, so tell your friend not to listen to those arguments too much as most of the talk is by people who have never owned them...

If possible get an 08 or later model, but having said that from my knowledge the early 430's don't have a great amount of issues with them anyway. I've only owned  a 2008 model coupe f1. Great car but I found they simply drive too nice, and because they drive easy and fairly comfortable I never felt like I was sitting in anything that special (if that makes any sense???). So I went for Gallardos afterwards (rougher cars, less practical, but you always know you are driving something more raw and real).

I never had any reliability issues with the 430, I had the car from 6000km and sold it with nearly 40 000km on original clutch, never had to replace the carbon ceramic rotors (if that is of any help). Servicing was simple and cheap, can be used as a daily driver and easy to park with minimal issues with getting into driveways etc...

Is your friend set on a 430 or wants more ideas? Bang for buck today 430's are a lot of car for not that much money comparatively speaking ofcorse...
You can say I'm wrong, but my garage doesn't agree with that statement!!!



Offline mtarone


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Personally I don't see the point of a manual clutch 430, the f1 is where a lot/most of the improvements are over manual clutch, I wouldn't bother about the common misconception about reduced clutch ware and the f1 pump being a problem, so tell your friend not to listen to those arguments too much as most of the talk is by people who have never owned them...

If possible get an 08 or later model, but having said that from my knowledge the early 430's don't have a great amount of issues with them anyway. I've only owned  a 2008 model coupe f1. Great car but I found they simply drive too nice, and because they drive easy and fairly comfortable I never felt like I was sitting in anything that special (if that makes any sense???). So I went for Gallardos afterwards (rougher cars, less practical, but you always know you are driving something more raw and real).

I never had any reliability issues with the 430, I had the car from 6000km and sold it with nearly 40 000km on original clutch, never had to replace the carbon ceramic rotors (if that is of any help). Servicing was simple and cheap, can be used as a daily driver and easy to park with minimal issues with getting into driveways etc...

Is your friend set on a 430 or wants more ideas? Bang for buck today 430's are a lot of car for not that much money comparatively speaking ofcorse...

Thanks Wattens, great feedback.  :thumbsup: Of course other ideas are more than welcome, feedback on the Gallardo would be nice as this would be seen as an alternative in this segment.



Offline dodger

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Personally I don't see the point of a manual clutch 430, the f1 is where a lot/most of the improvements are over manual clutch, I wouldn't bother about the common misconception about reduced clutch ware and the f1 pump being a problem, so tell your friend not to listen to those arguments too much as most of the talk is by people who have never owned them...

If possible get an 08 or later model, but having said that from my knowledge the early 430's don't have a great amount of issues with them anyway. I've only owned  a 2008 model coupe f1. Great car but I found they simply drive too nice, and because they drive easy and fairly comfortable I never felt like I was sitting in anything that special (if that makes any sense???). So I went for Gallardos afterwards (rougher cars, less practical, but you always know you are driving something more raw and real).

I never had any reliability issues with the 430, I had the car from 6000km and sold it with nearly 40 000km on original clutch, never had to replace the carbon ceramic rotors (if that is of any help). Servicing was simple and cheap, can be used as a daily driver and easy to park with minimal issues with getting into driveways etc...

Is your friend set on a 430 or wants more ideas? Bang for buck today 430's are a lot of car for not that much money comparatively speaking ofcorse...

Where was the servicing done ?



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Thanks Wattens, great feedback.  :thumbsup: Of course other ideas are more than welcome, feedback on the Gallardo would be nice as this would be seen as an alternative in this segment.

Depends what he wants out of the car, how often it's likely to be used etc...   430 is a much more comfortable place to sit, better for more things than the Gallardo.

If someone likes what the Ferrari does then they won't like a Gallardo lol. 430 is much more refined but personal opinion it gets boring as it doesn't feel special. Hard to explain but basically Ferrari have refined their cars to the point now that they are too easy and comfortable.

Don't know what your friend wants but I like unpractical cars to remind me that I'm in something special. Lol.
You can say I'm wrong, but my garage doesn't agree with that statement!!!



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Where was the servicing done ?

Not at the dealer obviously lol.
You can say I'm wrong, but my garage doesn't agree with that statement!!!



Offline mtarone


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Depends what he wants out of the car, how often it's likely to be used etc...   430 is a much more comfortable place to sit, better for more things than the Gallardo.

If someone likes what the Ferrari does then they won't like a Gallardo lol. 430 is much more refined but personal opinion it gets boring as it doesn't feel special. Hard to explain but basically Ferrari have refined their cars to the point now that they are too easy and comfortable.

Don't know what your friend wants but I like unpractical cars to remind me that I'm in something special. Lol.

I definitely get where you are coming from here. I suspect comfort and useability will be pretty high on the list, so its likely that the Gallardo wouldn't be a good fit in this case.



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To put it in perspective, last Wednesday I was looking at some new ferraris at the main dealer. Jumped out of the Gallardo and straight into a 458 spider with carbon racing seats, the carbon racing seats were a billion times more comfortable than the Gallardo's normal seat.   Then I made the mistake of test driving both the 458 and a California, in the calli I thought I was in a luxury car first and a supercar second. 458 was still extremely comfortable and easy to drive.

The aventadore is still uncomfortable but much improved over past lambos, basically Ferrari does more things better and they seem to cater to older demographic ( probably why they are more successful than other supercar brands).
You can say I'm wrong, but my garage doesn't agree with that statement!!!



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Is it much different to a 360 ?
I found that like a go kart.



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