[racecomp]

Hey Phil, what difference between the challenge wheels and STD 458 offset etc?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Box-Ferrari-458-Challenge-OEM-BBS-Rims-Set-4-/221039683130?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Wheels&vxp=mtr&hash=item3376fde63a

[Ferrari Fissatore]

Hey Phil, what difference between the challenge wheels and STD 458 offset etc?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Box-Ferrari-458-Challenge-OEM-BBS-Rims-Set-4-/221039683130?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Wheels&vxp=mtr&hash=item3376fde63a

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19x9" et52
19x11" et60.7

No idea on road car.

[Condor Man]

Now it's been launched officially, as we speak.

http://corseclienti.ferrari.com/2013en/2013/11/preview-458-challenge-evoluzione/

Here's the upgraded challenge, at Michelotto last week...

Has narrow version of gt3 wing, similar splitter and new from bumper.

White one is r&d car

Red car is the Vicious Rumour GT3

It's a cheap alternative to a Mclaren Pan Am.

[Ferrari Fissatore]

It's a cheap alternative to a Mclaren Pan Am.

All challenge cars are that.....

At Mugello, challenge cars are about 15 to 20km/h faster than a GT3 down the straights, yet 6% or  7 seconds in 110 slower.

Now they have aero, they'll be only 4 seconds slower while the front tyres are good.

They'll still understeer into wall/gravel/eachother after a dozen laps though.

[goober]

All challenge cars are that.....

At Mugello, challenge cars are about 15 to 20km/h faster than a GT3 down the straights, yet 6% or  7 seconds in 110 slower.

Now they have aero, they'll be only 4 seconds slower while the front tyres are good.

They'll still understeer into wall/gravel/eachother after a dozen laps though.

I noticed that between the 360 and the 430GT3, mechanical grip is awesome on the 430, the 360 does understeer if pushed hard.

Just cant justify 140k to go 4 or 5 seconds quicker at Clipsal when we aint even there for 2014...whoever made that decision needs their head read

The plus side it has saved me money............meh

[Ferrari Fissatore]

I noticed that between the 360 and the 430GT3, mechanical grip is awesome on the 430, the 360 does understeer if pushed hard.

Just cant justify 140k to go 4 or 5 seconds quicker at Clipsal when we aint even there for 2014...whoever made that decision needs their head read

The plus side it has saved me money............meh

Either car can understeer or oversteer depending on how you set it up.

[goober]

Either car can understeer or oversteer depending on how you set it up.

I was basing it on actual drive-ability without appropriate set ups, I realise the 360 can be set up even better than what it is but at the end of the day I'm in it for fun and I aint ever gunna be Michael Schumacher