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Offline 360c

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Pretty?????? Are you hearing yourself!!!! Describing a supercar as pretty????????  You lot are going soft!!!    :p

I love art and appreciate the esthetic aspects as much as the performance.  Part of the Ferrari aura is the beauty of it's designs over the years



Offline B2

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You haven't driven enough flappy paddle cars IMO. It's just a different experience. I was once of your opinion; but now I would never, ever go back to 3 pedal manual cars.
See if you can spec your manual HSV without ABS so you can enjoy the challenge of threshold braking. Much the same argument; but I bet you wouldn't want to if you could.

Yes, you are 100% correct, I haven't driven many at all (just your Scud).  I just love changing gears and really enjoy that whole experience with the 308.  Perhaps one day I'll change my mind when I can afford to buy a flappy paddle car and really test it out. ;)  Only spec on the HSV is fluffy dice. :)

Anyways, sorry Mark, back to the M458-T

Agree on your comments re 458's beauty.



Offline Ferrari Fissatore

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For me, the flappy paddles themselves have never been the problem.

Its the interface between driver input and car reactions.

Generally, the throttle is the issue, with gear change reaction only a secondary problem.

But the DSG technology is so good now, that I'm swayed.

My Radical has cable throttle and paddle shift with clutch pedal, it also has a gear stick which I chose to leave on the shelf, but could fit in a matter of moments. Things like Lambo and Ferrari 458GT3 cars, that have a clutch pedal and a better throttle action, are really cool cars to drive too, the early generation robo-shift 360/575 is now long gone

I still think it would be cool for manufacturers to offer a proper looking gear stick option, that was simply a functional switch with real feel for purists that want to shift by hand.



Offline shack

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+1

Every model is better and faster than the previous, that's the nature of evolution. However, even the Journo's have been saying for a while that the performance is now so extreme and unusable that it's largely irrelevant. It's the driving experience that really counts.
I will be interested to see if the replacement is as pretty as the 458 which IMO is the prettiest designs since the 355.

+1 and the Speciale while I wouldn't call it pretty is VERY purposeful...



Offline shack

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If it exists and if it is revealed at Geneva next year, I'd expect to see the first to arrive in Aust early-mid 2016.

Not sure I would want one of the first of these especially due to new engine.



Offline Ferrari Fissatore

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Not sure I would want one of the first of these especially due to new engine.

The engine has been on the Dyno over two years already.



Offline shack

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The engine has been on the Dyno over two years already.

I am sure the one in the GT3 was to :)



Offline alvchua


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+1 and the Speciale while I wouldn't call it pretty is VERY purposeful...

I think the Speciale is very pretty!  ;-) though nowhere near as gorgeous as the early 60s 250
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Offline Condor Man

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The engine has been on the Dyno over two years already.

Thanks for the intel.

I am so glad that they keep you informed at the factory......
May the Horse be with you....



Offline Ferrari Fissatore

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Thanks for the intel.

I am so glad that they keep you informed at the factory......

Your contributions to this thread, and in general, are noted. Yet, strangely, not appreciated.




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