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Offline dkabab

the more i read this story the more i side with the falcon driver



Offline gt wood


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hi i personally know neil muirhead
the Ferrari driver was tailgating up his gtp
neil then booted it doin 97killomiters to swap lanes as he did this
the ferrari then was side by side him on the crest
the drivers did not colide
then the Ferrari veered of the road due to unroad worthy tires
the hit a tree but bear in mind in the past he has 10 prior convictions
neil had none
so were is the sense in our courts and jury?
i will be writing neil quite a bit
and a few visits to him
let me no if there any messages to pass on


regards.

harley from moe



Offline gt wood


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hi i personally know neil muirhead
the Ferrari driver was tailgating up his gtp
neil then booted it doin 97killomiters to swap lanes as he did this
the ferrari then was side by side him on the crest
the drivers did not colide
then the Ferrari veered of the road due to unroad worthy tires
the hit a tree but bear in mind in the past he has 10 prior convictions
neil had none
so were is the sense in our courts and jury?
i will be writing neil quite a bit
and a few visits to him
let me no if there any messages to pass on


regards.

harley from moe



Offline mhh

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let me no if there any messages to pass on


What can you say?  The whole thing is a sad and sorry mess.  :(



Offline Ferrari Fissatore

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^

thanks.

I have full sympathy for ALL involved.

We've ALL had a bit of a fang from time to time.

I'm not sure of the circumstances, but to say the Ferrari left the road due to un RWC tyres is possibly not quite right.

was it raining? If not, tyres with low tread depth actually provide MORE grip than deeply treaded tyres. The tread is only to remove water.

Unless the tyres were un RWC for some other reason?

It's clear that both parties were at fault in some way.

It may seem harsh, and I'm not sure if the law works this way, but to help cleanse consciences, perhaps the ferrari driver should also receive a posthumous conviction.



Offline mhh

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^

perhaps the ferrari driver should also receive a posthumous conviction.

Except there is no such thing, is there?  It's hard to make anyone feel better in this one.  All are losers.



Offline Ferrari Fissatore

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Except there is no such thing, is there?

well I'm not sure, I guess not.

Personally, I don't see how it would help much, but I guess it might simply help the survivors of the incident feel better if ALL the blame was not on their shoulders.

Pretty harsh for the rellies of the deceased though, for sure.



Offline ACP

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hi i personally know neil muirhead
the Ferrari driver was tailgating up his gtp
neil then booted it doin 97killomiters to swap lanes as he did this
the ferrari then was side by side him on the crest
the drivers did not colide
then the Ferrari veered of the road due to unroad worthy tires
the hit a tree but bear in mind in the past he has 10 prior convictions
neil had none
so were is the sense in our courts and jury?
i will be writing neil quite a bit
and a few visits to him
let me no if there any messages to pass on


regards.

harley from moe

The whole episode is terrible news for everyone. What sort of prison is he in?



Offline AshSimmonds

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I'm not sure of the circumstances, but to say the Ferrari left the road due to un RWC tyres is possibly not quite right.

I remember this incident sparked a big debate on the safety factors of 360s with their underbody aero.

Cliff's Notes version was something along the lines of 360 being very difficult to retain control of once underflow is disturbed as a significant portion of downforce is generated on the pretense of a largely constant directional air velocity.

In the instance of a moderately high-speed where aero becomes a reasonable factor to roadholding (say 130+) on a curve combined with undulating conditions, it's possible to conclude the regular Joe driver who hasn't had training/experience in the instance of "losing" such a vehicle may simply become a passenger waiting to arrive at the scene of the accident the instant things get just a little out of hand.

We'll never know for sure though - maybe there was a bit of oil on the road, maybe they had a delamination, maybe a spider dropped into his lap, maybe he sneezed... There's only two people who *may* have known the answer - and this site doesn't reach that far, so it's all conjecture.



Offline AshSimmonds

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but she was just a pax, they can't charge or for being in the car or just watching.

I didn't mean assigning blame - I just mean she was someone who didn't even really know the Ferrari driver and was offered a quick blast around the block in it - something I'm sure many 20-something girls would jump at the chance to do.



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