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Offline mhh

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Ash, you don't need bald tyres or oil on the road to crash in an 80 zone if you are doing 160.  The road is 80 for a reason presumably.

Looks like the Falcon left the scene and and only later turned himself in - probably didn't help his cause.

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2006/07/27/1153816296126.html



Offline gt wood


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at this stage he is in remand
and he did not leave the scene of accident it
due to neil believed he was in the right and it wasn't his accident
he then found out by watchin the news that they wanted to talk to him
so he went to moe police station and gave his story



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at this stage he is in remand center

and yes the ferrari was going a lot faster than neil
i sat and watched the trial
the witnesses could not decide
but they said the ferrari was being most disruptive
and the tires were bald beyond rwc





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OK, so the Ferrari was a 360 and it had bald tyres???
Why the hell was this guy driving it around like that??
I have always said if you can't afford to have good, RWC tyres on your car then you should not have one!!!!

But I am a little confused still?

Did Neil leave the scene of the crash or not?!?!? He must have known that the Ferrari had crashed?!?!?
If he hung around surely the police would have questioned him there, if they said they were looking for him, he must of left before the police got there????




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yes he was showing off for a 27yo
and he had 10 prior convictions
neil was backing off at the stage of
crash yes he left due to ther was a bus
Subaru and celica behind him
and he had confidence it was not his fault of accident
as he got home that night he saw it on news
and gave himself up in the morning



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http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2006/07/27/1153816296126.html

can see a tyre in this pic

I'm intrigued as to exactly how the tyres were un RWC

And as I said, if it was dry, low tread would not have caused the loss of grip.

And as for stopping..... I have stopped at accidents where I thought they just happened, regardless of my involvement. You never know when you can help out.

Thankfully, I've never seen or been involved with any accident involving injury.

It's all just a horrible mess. I have to say I think the sentence overall is probably fair, but that the minimum of 3 years was a bit unnecessary. I think if he shows remorse there's no point locking him away.

SURELY he'll be a different, safer driver after this?



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Ash, you don't need bald tyres or oil on the road to crash in an 80 zone if you are doing 160.  The road is 80 for a reason presumably.

Looks like the Falcon left the scene and and only later turned himself in - probably didn't help his cause.

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2006/07/27/1153816296126.html

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Police confirm race theory

July 27, 2006 - 3:40PM

The wreckage of the Ferrari and the car police suspect may have been involved in the crash.
Photo: Wayne Hawkins

Police have confirmed that a Ferrari which yesterday smashed into a tree at 150kmh, killing two people, had been drag racing another car moments before the accident.

Acting Senior Sergeant Paul Cripps of the Major Collision Investigation Unit today confirmed the red Ferrari and a silver GT Falcon were seen taking off at high speed after the traffic lights turned green at the intersection of the Warburton and Maroondah highways, south-east of Melbourne.

"At this stage we believe the Ferrari was involved in some form of racing with a GT Falcon," acting Sergeant Cripps said.

"The indications are that it may have been an impromptu thing.

"Both vehicles were seen at the same set of traffic lights, and they were both travelling at high speed. When the lights went green, they just took off at high speed."

Paul Escort, 33, from Wandin North, and a Traralgon woman, 27, were killed on impact in the crash.

The woman had just delivered a new motorcycle to Mr Escort, a father of four, and he offered her a ride in his sports car. Minutes later, the Ferarri was torn to pieces and the pair were dead.

Police are still seeking the driver of the distinctive silver Falcon, which has an orange stripe on the bottom.

Acting Sergeant Cripps said there were up to 100 such cars in Victoria and police were confident they would find the driver.

Police have appealed to the driver of the Falcon to come forward.
Acting Sergeant Cripp warned owners of sports cars they were as vulnerable to speed as other road users.

"There are speed limits on the road because speed kills. No matter what sort of vehicle you have, on impact with a tree, normally the tree wins."

Anyone with information is urged to phone Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.

Added pic.



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And as for stopping..... I have stopped at accidents where I thought they just happened, regardless of my involvement. You never know when you can help out.

Indeed - can't comment on the specific circumstances, but a car left in a mangle like that - who cares about a Subaru and Celica and bus being an extra 5 seconds late, why wouldn't they stop as well?

Just last week I witnessed a prang - it was nothing really - old biddy not paying attention came screeching in for about 20m and hit the car in front at probably less than 20kph, I still went straight over to them and asked if everything was ok and if they needed help.



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well the years i known him he has been a quiet sort of guy
he is a power operator distributor
he and most of us believe his innocence
so he should not been jailed 

and yea the 2 front tires were bald and aparently slightly flat

yes he did leave also the bus driver was fined for leaving
 but as soon as neil james muirhead found out he handed himself in




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well guys im just telling you the bits the paper havnt got to yet
i talked to neil today for 12 mins he is just beside him self
an innocent man behind bars



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