Some of you might be wondering why myfazzman has the hots for me. Well, this is the thread that started it.http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/australia/342244-ferrari-308-328-qvs-great-value.html
The way he reacted, most of which was deleted before he was banned, it was like I killed his nanna!
All I said was that a good 308QV can be bought for $50kSo, that got me thinking......
what makes a "good" second hand Ferrari?
Here are my thoughts, open for discussion, as always.
First, no rust! Just about everything else can be fixed cheaply and easily enough and on budget except that.
Usually, I'd have to say IMO, Aussie spec. That's not only because it's easier to know the legitimate history of the car, but also because, further down the track, they're much MUCH easier to sell. Of course, that doesn't mean there's no such thing as a good non Aussie spec car...I've had a few myself.
Paint would have to be in good nick, either in relation to its age and has been looked after, or otherwise had a nice new respray at some point with verifiable quality.
The interior. Again, like with the paint, unless it's been restored there will be wear and tear. It's not hard to pick a car that's been loved and cared for compared to a car that's been mistreated.
IMO, the interior and paint are a snapshot to how the car's been looked after over its life.
How often have we seen similar year cars with similar km showing massive differences in wear and tear?? Despite having fully stamped books!! Given some time, you just learn to pick that stuff.
As far as service history is concerned, I'm a little less fussed. Obviously you'd be silly to buy a car without getting a PPI done by a reputable mechanic. If it checks out mechanically, then don't worry if the stamps aren't in all the right places.....similarly, don't be surprised if it's mechanically rooted, even if the history seems perfect.
Has the car had a recent belt change? Have the valve clearances been done recently? These are questions a Ferrari buyer always seems to ask. Well, here's what *I* do....I buy the car and I get the mechanic I trust to do a belt change and full service as well as valve clearances (if applicable) because there are some really dumb mechanics out there and I'd rather pay a few bucks to make sure I know that everything is done exactly right.
So....going on that criteria, I still maintain that you can buy a good 308QV for $50k.
That does NOT, of course, mean that EVERY 308QV is worth $50k. For example, Horse's 308QV is a multiple concours winner, track day winner and a genuine car that's been in the family since new and, of course, is Aussie spec. Apart from that, the colour is sensational.
I don't call that a good QV though....I call that exceptional.
myfazzman acted like I said his car is worth $50k, which I did not. I don't know his car, even though I've seen it. It might be worth more...it might be worth less...but boy, he sure over reacted!
Anyway, does anyone have any extra or different criteria for a "good" used Ferrari?