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Offline Rickjames


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So I was thinking the other day....and yes it did hurt!

Why doesn't Ferrari have a Mid engined V12 in the current regular model range?

I would imagine it would sell well if priced around or above Aventador cash.

They could still do the bonkers limited production V12 carbon cars, but maybe just a larger version of the 458 essentially, with the 599 engine.

Maybe not enough market? Scared of hurting other models sales? Want to reserve the mid engined V12 kudos for limited production ?

Ben





Offline dkabab

I've thought this for years. V12 mid engine as flagship grant tourer, 2+2 front engine for the people with families etc.



Offline looney


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I must be in the minority, but the only Ferrari's i'd ever want to own have 8 or 6 cylinder engines. 



Offline Rickjames


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I was thinking the model line up would look like;

Limited Edition V12 Mid engined Enzo etc every 10 years or so, carbon bodied cutting edge tech etc
Mid engined V12 Alloy bodied, standard V12
Front engine V12 (599)
Front engine V12 2+2 (FF.....vomit)
Mid engine V8 (458)
Front Engine V8.......if it was needed (Cali)





Offline Ferrari Fissatore

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The new supercar will be coming along soon.

No need for a mid V12 in the regular range. There's already too many Ferraris, let Lambo have some sun!



Offline B2

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The new supercar will be coming along soon.

No need for a mid V12 in the regular range. There's already too many Ferraris, let Lambo have some sun!

Must be getting close now.......



Offline Ferrari Fissatore

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Must be getting close now.......

I'm gutted that on my recent trip to Italy, I "almost" got to see it. But things didn't quite work out for us to get there.

I did see a lot of the engine stuff though, and it's going to be a gem....



Offline Stingray69


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Easy answer-it is too costly-The F12 and FF share the architecture production wise and to produce both creates economies of scale.

Really, Ferrari should just drop the 2+2 market and leave it to Maserati-I think Ferrari feels wedded to this market since it generated a lot profit for them in the 60's and 70's. Remember, Ferrari sold far more 250 GTEs, 330 GT 2+2 and 400 etc then the more exotic 250 SWB, 275 GTB's and Boxers. However, what was so in the 60 's and 70's is no longer so today.

They had so much commercial success with the Testarossa's and they should've continued with a mid engined car for it successor rather then with the 550/575 but in essence (although not in detail) the 550/575 series were just short wheel based versions of the 456 GT and hence much more cost effective to produce. Nonetheless, the front engined cars are a very tough sell after the first few years of their release.

Personally, I rather like the 550/575 series and prefer it over a mid engine 12 cylinder car but I'm in the minority. If I were running Ferrari, I would drop the front engined cars, release a main stream V-12 mid engine car and I'm sure they wouldn't have many problems selling every 12 cylinder car they produce. Then I would leave the Italian exotic 2+2  for Maserati.
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Offline mondi

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I'm gutted that on my recent trip to Italy, I "almost" got to see it. But things didn't quite work out for us to get there.

I did see a lot of the engine stuff though, and it's going to be a gem....


Count yourself lucky, if you had of seen it you would now be dead - you know the old saying!! 



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