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Offline BLUEFISH


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Hi guys - interested in peoples opinion in importing old salvaged vehicles from Overseas to Australia.

Friend did this with a vehicle many years back and got a wreck/salvage and built up a car in australia - and then registered it.

I am looking for an LP640 murcie - and have a number of options to take up.

Build a vehicle - kitcar - from salvaged parts - fibreglass or carbon fibre panels - original or Al copote rolling chasis

Or rebuild an original rolling salvaged vehicle

If I was to take this on - what pros/cons can you guys advise me on please

ie: importing to Australia, taxes and other things that need to be considered

I assume best option is to import parts/salvage for racing justification?

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Hope you have deep pockets, parts are expensive.
Long parts lead times.

You're not fixing a comodore.
In most cases it is not worth it.

By the time the repairs are finished, the current market prices drop.

My gut feeling is that you can buy
360's as low as $140k
Gallardos as low as $190k
Murcies around $300k

A mate of mine tried it  and did his balls.

At the end of the day it is an import which has been repaired.
Very difficult to hide a repair.
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as far as I have researched it can not be done :doh:

No car can come into the country under raws/sevs/low volume if there is any kind of damage, even if it is repairable.... it has to be repaired over seas before it can come here.

Having said that I have seen a SLR with damage for sale in OZ, not sure if the damage was done here or over seas though....

Yes I know that theory and practice are two different things but what I have read is car has to basically be in factory condition (few minor midifications are allowed but make the process harder).

SO someone correct me if i'm wrong
You can say I'm wrong, but my garage doesn't agree with that statement!!!



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We've had loads of discussions on import/VASS/tax/compliance/RAWS/etc, but I don't think the idea of bunged cars has come up - does that really change things much?

Anyhoo, a bit of back reading:

http://aussieexotics.com/forum/tagged/id,93478/tag,import/






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you are probably right.

the one my mate bought in was already repaired overseas.
but the repair was really bad.

so they had to start again here.

Repair rectifications took 2 years and cost about $80k.

Then the raws was almost $30K

So he ended up doing his balls.

Car was OK in the end.
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yeah i'm not sure either in what context I read about it under, but I thought the context said a damaged vehicle can not come into the country, and at the time of reading it I was researching into sevs and raws workshops a lot.

I did a quick word find on the documents I have but nothing came up and really I don't have the time to sit here and read through the rules and regulations agian right now, if I come across them again i'll answer for sure what the rules are but my money is on the fact that the cars imported as damaged can never get rego.


Race and wrecked cars are different, but they can not get rego anyway....
You can say I'm wrong, but my garage doesn't agree with that statement!!!



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Oh my..........what a can of worms.

Damaged/salvaged vehicles can not be imported. They need to be cut up and you will have to bring all the bits in separate containers.

Anyway, you will not have any paperwork for the car so there is no way you will get it rego'ed.

More info later..............



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Guys - I am glad I have sparked some discussion here - I don't think this option has been discussed in this forum along this line of thought

Don't think about a running car here - vehicle is titled "written off" - only good for parts so to speak.....
Salvaged/written off vehicles are are very very cheap in places OS...

I know of diablo's with original chasis and carbon fibre panels being built in WA - exact replicas with majority of the parts being OEM - or replicated.  Some of these vehicles meet ADR and FMVSS stds better than the OEM vehicle, but this is dependable on the build/quality etc.  These are all hand crafted vehicles.

Note: A 2008 wrecked LP640 murcie can vary in price - from 25K - to 80K AUD - these are written off vehicles (unregisterrable) - hence PARTS for a race car or owner is relatively a small outlay.

It is unfortunate that these vehicles are often LHD - hence another destinction they are being utilised for Spare Parts.

With imports now 5% ilo 10% from 2010 - this is now an attractive option for both the original and Kit replica owner.

I don't have my head around the facts - but I would like to know some facts about this option available to us.

What will a vehicle in this "written off" - "Racing Parts" cost me to get it to Australia.   (Is it like importing a Japanese Engine???)

ie: Say a vehicle is a Lambo Murcie with a $20K AUD purchase price tag and I ned to get it from New York to Melbourne.

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do you mean you already have a lp640 chasis in OZ and you want to fill in the gaps with over seas spare parts and turn the chassis into a registerable car in OZ by using a wrecked overseas model?


I would assume you import the parts into the country as merci parts, what mondi said

If not then I don't understand what you are trying to do....
You can say I'm wrong, but my garage doesn't agree with that statement!!!



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I have a spaceframe - replica of original chassis - purpose built and assembled in Oz for racing. 

I am looking to make the panels in carbon fibre - exact reproduction of original panels (Like for Like) because I can!

I would like to use the running gear from salvaged parts to fit this chassis and register the vehicle for myself - never to be sold off.

This way I will have an AWD vehicle - ilo rear wheel drive and as close to OEM as possible.


There are two company's I know that do this sort of stuff as a business, and the gear is all imported from OverSeas.

Its just assembled in Australia in QLD and in WA.

These vehicles are able to be registered in all states of Australia as they ADR compliant.

Photo below shows the workmanship of the spaceframe

They have them for the Ferrari 430 and Lamborghini Murcielago LP640/revention

So just how is it possible?



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