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Offline amgsl55

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So, me not being a stealing lowlife thief kinda guy, I've put up a wireless video system at entry points.  Cameras are pretty well hidden as not one visitor notices them as they walk in.  My question is: Do lowlifes ring the doorbell to see who's in before finding a weak access point.  We almost always have a car out front.  BTW it's great for seeing what time my kids get home...

what my security bloke said is that they ring the doorbell and if no one answers they'll put on a balaclava and jump the fence and get in through the side -  if you have cameras you can identify them by the clothes they wear and match it to the pic without a balaclava.

we are putting 3 external cameras and two internals ( garage and living area), and the front intercom captures the images of all people that press the button



Offline scud

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So, me not being a stealing lowlife thief kinda guy, I've put up a wireless video system at entry points.  Cameras are pretty well hidden as not one visitor notices them as they walk in.  My question is: Do lowlifes ring the doorbell to see who's in before finding a weak access point.  We almost always have a car out front.  BTW it's great for seeing what time my kids get home...
had two guys knock on the front door once as the driveway gate was open. no one was at home so they thought so they walked around the house looking for an open door/window then left. ironing lady was downstairs in the laundry, heard the knock but didn't answer, told me about it, i looked at the cameras, grabbed the footage and gave it to the police. one had a jacket with a business name and phone number on the back, crooks are crooks cause they're dumb.



Offline jamesatfish


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A few thoughts for anyone setting up a similar system based upon my experience:

1. Cameras don't work well in the dark, regardless of how much you spend on them and how low their Lux rating goes.  If you want to ensure clear images from your cameras place them in conjunction with a motion-sensing light source, so that someone walking into the camera's view at night will be lit up.

2. If you're serious about capture quality (both resolution and frame rate) consider building a solution around a desktop PC / Mac rather than buying a DVR-in-a-box system.  Mega-pixel cameras running at 10+fps require a decent amount of performance to re-code/compress the incoming video and store it to disk, and it doesn't take many cameras to reach the limits of simple in-a-box systems.

3. Build a system with at least 2 weeks worth of historic archive for each camera.  We had one break-in at a commercial building where the footage from the night of the break-in wasn't quite good enough to identify the number plate of the vehicle, but the same vehicle visited the site during the day about 10 days prior to look around and we could grab the plates from there.

4. Think about how your video footage is backed up in the event of a break-in.  There's no point having a CCTV system if the DVR part of the system is one of the items stolen.  As our system is IP based and we have a multiple site VPN we actually capture all the remote cameras at each site, so there's always a copy of the video offsite from the moment it's taken.  A similar outcome can be achieved with a system that automatically emails or FTPs copies of the video files to a remote location when motion is detected.

5. Remote access to view your system is fantastic, but remember it means that your camera system is exposed to the internet.  This means you need to make sure everything is locked down with quality passwords and that software patches and security updates are applied regularly.  Also try to use a system that supports SSL connections - otherwise your password details are flying through the air in plain text every time you check your cameras from the free WiFi at the Maccas.



Offline andecorp

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Always put your cameras in plain view. Don't hide them. Rather than have them hidden and catching the thieves faces, it's better for them to see the cameras and all security before they attempt anything so they move to the next place that is less secure. Think about bouncers - it's better to employ a massive scary bouncer who would scare any trouble makers from doing anything, rather than have a small bouncer that can fight - sure, he's useful once the trouble has begun, but it's better to stop the trouble from happening in the first place.

The above is to deter the amateurs (99.9%)

If you have something specific that the professional thieves have come for, they will get it regardless of what security you have in place.

I have full day and night vision cameras in plain view as well as sensor flood lights all around the building. Big bright yellow bollards in the driveway. Clearly visible bars on all the glass areas. If they look through the front glass door, they see themselves on the security monitor.

Perimeter sensors at every accessible point of the building. If they do break in, I have rotating laser sensors (like you see in the movies) sweeping all the areas inside the building. When the alarm goes off, I have smoke screens being realeased so they can't breathe unless they lay on the floor, strobe lights go off and high db piercing internal sirens. So they'll be rolling on the ground unable to breathe, hear or see. :D

Until not long ago, if someone was in the building, the thief would also be met by the barrels of several guns. Sadly I don't have the guns anymore... :(
You make something idiotproof, they'll make a better idiot.



Offline Paulstar


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So Andecorp, have you ever accidentally tripped your own alarm there?  :scared:



Offline amgsl55

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So Andecorp, have you ever accidentally tripped your own alarm there?  :scared:

before or after the shotguns?


has anyone thought of using geese for security?



Offline andecorp

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So Andecorp, have you ever accidentally tripped your own alarm there?  :scared:

Not me, but a dumdum gen Y that works for me did  :doh:
You make something idiotproof, they'll make a better idiot.



Offline amgsl55

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lets not forget the truck monkey security system

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJS-0jUwY2k" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJS-0jUwY2k</a>



Offline andecorp

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lets not forget the truck monkey security system

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJS-0jUwY2k" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJS-0jUwY2k</a>
See, now that's a cool vid, not like some of the idiocy that some of the kids have been posting lately.
You make something idiotproof, they'll make a better idiot.



Offline AshSimmonds

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All this security talk - I found it easier to just move into a place that only Spiderman can rob. :doh: :p

Haven't locked my doors in 8 years. :D





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