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Offline TEZZA

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Serviced offices offer flexibility but are expensive (I used to use one in Perth).  Also, the other tenants there may or may not be interested in socialising. Taking on a regular lease in your own space  with some buddies will usually require someone to guarantee the lease - which is a pain for the nominated tenant when one of the group wants to leave or can't pay their share.

When I started my business nearly 20 years ago, I got a sweet deal from a firm of accountants who had too much space and were willing to rent me an office and a carparking space.  It was month-by-month and involved no paperwork and' as I grew, I just took (and paid for) the extra space.  I bought admin support by the hour as I needed it. I was welcome at their Friday drinks and got to hang out with accountants in the kitchen.  I got more work referred from my landlord than I was paying in rent too.  It gave me the break I needed to start my business.



MHH is right on here. The problem with sharing is who is going to carry the can for the lease. No dough on the line = no committment. So your pals, when it suits them, up and go and you are left with it. Serviced offices will not usually give you any social life. They are all on-a-mission usually.

The idea of finding another business with excess space and sub-letting off them is tops. You just need a basic letter of understanding or simple commercial lease or sub lease. Make sure it covers how to "get out". Even better still if your landlord can generate some random business for you.

I had a pal who was a commercial plumber. He hired a couple of offices in the corner of a panel beater (of all places) the panel beater did not need/use them so this guy used them, paid stuff-all in rent and got him going with low overheads.

Think outside the 9 dots.




Offline YMCMB


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Serviced offices offer flexibility but are expensive (I used to use one in Perth).  Also, the other tenants there may or may not be interested in socialising. Taking on a regular lease in your own space  with some buddies will usually require someone to guarantee the lease - which is a pain for the nominated tenant when one of the group wants to leave or can't pay their share.

When I started my business nearly 20 years ago, I got a sweet deal from a firm of accountants who had too much space and were willing to rent me an office and a carparking space.  It was month-by-month and involved no paperwork and' as I grew, I just took (and paid for) the extra space.  I bought admin support by the hour as I needed it. I was welcome at their Friday drinks and got to hang out with accountants in the kitchen.  I got more work referred from my landlord than I was paying in rent too.  It gave me the break I needed to start my business.

I'd see if you can find a hole in the wall in one of the firms in the East End - PR, web design, etc - who might like a little bit of rent.

+1

Bootstrap it Ash. Get on the grind by dressing and being in a working space as you would be for a normal "job".  Its a mindset thing really.

mhh has shared something really valuable.  Hustle a deal from someone who wants to sublet space on a month by month basis.  That way, you're not locked into a lease and can grow and expand at your own pace.  If you're extremely impatient or have a burning idea to create or innovate, an incubator might also be viable.  If your plan is viable, there may even be seed funding or mentorship in that environment too.

You have to start somewhere to make progress and that isn't necessarily the office with the harbour view.  Make that a goal (not the revenue) and if you're dedicated enough to controlling your own destiny, I know you can make it happen.  If you really enjoy doing what you do, the cashflow will follow.

My mentor always told me, you never have to work a day in your life if you love what you do. 

Stay on the hussle, it will pay off :-)



Offline 98octane

Level 30 for Higher Steaks - http://www.servcorp.com.au/locations/adelaide/westpac-house

I worked in their offices a lot a couple in 08/09. Very well serviced by very attractive fembots. But as said above the other tenants don't socialise, but can nonetheless be very loud on speakerphone.



Offline Paulstar


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  • Location: Sydney
Serviced offices are nice but damn expensive and not worth it for 1-2 months only. On Sydney gumtree plenty of people post up desk space in their own offices but looks like the Adelaide market is a bit different.

Understand your need to be social and not sit alone for 12 hours a day too, since you do online stuff why not take your laptop somewhere nice for the day? Or just drop in to a mates office and work there now and then. I found things like that took the boring out and kept the creative going. Maybe even go black ops style (again) and commandeer some space in your work building that no one knows about?



Offline AshSimmonds

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Serviced offices offer flexibility but are expensive (I used to use one in Perth).  Also, the other tenants there may or may not be interested in socialising.

As mentioned, I already have half a dozen friends who freelance mostly from home, and speaking to one of them last night she was keen on the idea of being able to just hang out a couple days a week with actual friends while getting stuff done - which is the angle I'm coming from, not so much because I need space, I just like the variety.

I'd see if you can find a hole in the wall in one of the firms in the East End - PR, web design, etc - who might like a little bit of rent.

This is actually quite feasible, I have several contacts throughout the East End in social media houses who I wouldn't mind working around, but this is all 3-6 months away once I'm no longer working in an office and the novelty of working in my daks has worn off.





Offline AshSimmonds

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Bootstrap it Ash. Get on the grind by dressing and being in a working space as you would be for a normal "job".  Its a mindset thing really.

mhh has shared something really valuable.  Hustle a deal from someone who wants to sublet space on a month by month basis.  That way, you're not locked into a lease and can grow and expand at your own pace.  If you're extremely impatient or have a burning idea to create or innovate, an incubator might also be viable.  If your plan is viable, there may even be seed funding or mentorship in that environment too.

Don't need biz ideas or inspiration or funding, time is the enemy. :cool:





Offline AshSimmonds

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Understand your need to be social and not sit alone for 12 hours a day too, since you do online stuff why not take your laptop somewhere nice for the day? Or just drop in to a mates office and work there now and then. I found things like that took the boring out and kept the creative going.

Yep - guess I should buy a laptop. :p




Offline Ferrari Fissatore

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Just get a salaried job with local council or govmnt office, they wont notice you do nothing for them, and you get a bonus salary.

A hologram projector would suffice for when you're not there.




Seriously, just find a business with spare desk space you can rent.... Like mhh or similar ;)



Offline AshSimmonds

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Seriously, just find a business with spare desk space you can rent....

Still missing the point, I'm not talking about being in a random office environment - that's what I'm in now and can get anytime I want - I mean actually setting up a hotseat office with say six placements, spread amongst a dozen or so likeminded freelancers - numbers are just for instance.





Offline andecorp

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Move here, I'll give you one of the offices in my new building, 1 day a week you work for me, the rest for yourself. You know most of the guys here plus as a bonus you'll be surrounded by exotics too and there's the proper hardcore gym to use as much as you want, so all your interests are catered for... and BEST OF ALL, FF is literally around the corner!!!
You make something idiotproof, they'll make a better idiot.



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