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Offline Fil-Ski

  • Joined: Feb 2009

  • Drives: 993TT
  • Location: Adelaide
I have an external company do my payroll, It has payed for itself on numerous occasions during disputes when I calm the angry staff member and tell them that it is not me that works out their pays.
It is very nice being arms length away as peoples pays are emotional topics.

Highly recommend that all companies outsource payroll. People often overlook how much it actualy costs to do payroll. For a few dollars per employee it's a bargain.
You also get people who are always across award rates and the 1,000s of workplace rules.

Offline TEZZA

  • Those Frenchies seek him everywhere

  • Joined: Oct 2011

  • Drives: No matter what it is I am still lusting after something better.
  • Location: In a sunny place

We have used MYOB forever.
It is a complex beast and not very user friendly.
Its method of storing data in silos is antiquated.

But, and there is always a but... all the data sits on my server and I trust my server and my back-ups.
I don't like the idea of all that data sitting somewhere else.
It's not a security issue, its a data ownership/access issue.

Offline futurism

  • Joined: Jan 2009

  • Drives: Regretfully sold my GT3
  • Location: Adelaide
  • Name: David
my missus is a chartered accountant who currently works on commercializing academic projects, this requires starting and managing a lot of small companies, all of whom require some creative accounting to get funding from strange sources, tax offsets for entrepreneurs, you name it

she used to work where I do, and so is familiar with SAP

in between then and now she has worked with companies that use peoplesoft, great plains, MYOB, Quickbooks etc.
Not all of these products are direct competitors to xero of course, but the bigger ones on that list provide the same functionality plus a lot more

However, she raves about xero, describes it as revolutionary, and now actively encourages new companies as well as established companies to move to it.
As far as I know they dont pay her for the recommendation! If they do I want a cut.

If you are worried about cloud / SaaS, I have a detailed paper I have written on the subject of when to use such services, what to be concerned about, how to mitigate the risks etc. Happy to share if anyone wants it.

Offline flamestone

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  • Joined: Jul 2007

  • Drives: to and from everywhere
  • Location: Central Coast
  • Name: Shane
  • www: Flamestone.com
I'll probably soon be starting an integration with xero.  So I'll have an opinion of their API and documentation soon.  I'll keep you posted in case you're interested in that angle.

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