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Hi guys,

My first posting here...a  big HELLO to all.  :D

I hope this won't be a short visit....I'm currently in the market for an 'exotic' of some sort in Japan. However European brands are usually pricey (hey they are 'exotics' here too!) and the biggest worry is they are all left hand drive (in the pure sports models at least - Helps with the 'exotica' appeal of cars here...as annoying as they are to drive!).

I've currently got my eyes on a 996 GT3 cup version but in LHD. It's a very nice car, clean and good history with 17,???kms on the clock. The problem being I will want to import it to oz in a year's time (allowable under the import laws) but it'll need to be converted to RHD. Can anyone give me a rough (within a few grand) estimate of what that would cost or where I could enquire and what would my potential resale be?

Here are some pics of the car...
http://photos.yahoo.co.jp/ph/kieron70/lst?.dir=/1932&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.co.jp/&.view=t

Looking forward to hearing your responses.



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I will want to import it to oz in a year's time (allowable under the import laws)

really?

http://rvcs-prodweb.dot.gov.au/sevs/sevsindex.htm

or are you in japan, going to own it there for a year and THEN bring it over and there are different rules?

sorry to just answer your question with a question :)

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Here is some lite reading.
http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/vehicle_regulation/bulletin/importing_vehicles/general/EligibilityCriteria_2.aspx

I think that under the personal import scheme, the vehicle can be left LHD.
As for some one who can do the conversion, not sure.   :?
I know of guys who can do the early ones but this is a different kettle of fish.

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[5. Personal Imports - Part 10 on Application Form
The following persons are not eligible to import a vehicle under the Personal Import Scheme:

visitors
temporary residents
foreign diplomatic personnel
companies and
corporations
To be eligible for a personal import the following mandatory criteria must be satisfied:

the vehicle has been owned and used by the applicant for a continuous period of at least 12 months (3 months where ownership and use of the vehicle commenced before 8 May 2000);
at the time the vehicle is imported, the applicant is:
i. an Australian citizen or an Australian permanent resident; or
ii. a person who has applied to become an Australian citizen or an Australian permanent resident;
the applicant is of an age that entitles him or her to hold a licence or a permit to drive a road vehicle of that type;
the applicant undertakes to comply with any requirements as to road safety that are imposed in respect of the vehicle by the Administrator; and
the applicant has not imported a road vehicle owned by him/her within the year ending on the day on which the vehicle in respect of which the application is made is landed in Australia.
If an applicant has imported a vehicle under any other provisions in that time, approval will not be granted.
The criteria outlined at (a) to (e) are mandatory criteria as included in Regulation 13 of the Motor Vehicle Standards Regulations 1989. The criteria will be strictly enforced.

Copies of the following documents must be provided to establish ownership and use of the vehicle overseas for twelve consecutive months, or more:

every page of your passport including all blank pages
statement of travel. This involves supplying details of any absences from your main country of residence during the relevant qualifying period for ownership and use of the vehicle. If your travel was for business reasons you must supply a letter to that effect from your employer.
purchase documents
overseas registration documents in your name
driver's licence
a $50 application fee must also be provided.
Applicants importing from Japan must include the following additional documents:

overseas registration certificate, from time of purchase, to time of deregistration, in the applicant's name
overseas de-registration certificate, in the applicant's name, showing the date that the vehicle was deregistered in Japan if applicable
a parking approval in the applicant's name showing that the applicant had permission to park the vehicle
compulsory tax and insurance
the applicant's driver's licence -international or as issued by Japanese authorities.
410 & 457 Visa holder and New Zealand Citizens
Regulation 13 of the Motor Vehicle Standards Regulations states that the applicant must be an Australian citizen or an Australian permanent resident or a person who has applied to become an Australian citizen or Australian permanent resident. The Administrator has recognised that people travelling on 410 Visas are unable to apply for permanent Australian Residency, even though they are permitted to remain and live in Australia. The Administrator also recognises that New Zealand citizens and people travelling on a 457 Visa are unable to apply for permanent residency until they have migrated to Australia and have met certain immigration requirements. The Administrator will consider applications to import personally owned vehicles from applicants who are entering Australia under these arrangements.

Note: In these cases, all criteria other than (b) in relation to citizenship, must still be met.

Applicants from New Zealand and those travelling on a 457 "Long Stay Business Visa" will need to demonstrate their credentials as genuine migrants by way of:

employment details - letter from employer stating where you are working
rental agreement/purchase agreement for property in Australia
opening of Australian bank account
shipment of household goods
australian telephone/electricity accounts
australian tax file number
medicare card
enrolment of children in an Australian school
sale of property in home country
resignation from work in home country
cancellation of rental property in home country
entry stamp into Australia -until you arrive in Australia your Vehicle Import Approval is unable to be granted. (This only applies to New Zealand passport holders)
This list is a guide only, and you may be required to provide further evidence of your migration status.

Applicants travelling on a 410 "Retirement Visa" will need to demonstrate their credentials as genuine migrants by way of:

rental agreement/purchase agreement for property in Australia
opening of Australian bank account
shipment/quotation of household goods
medical insurance for Australia
australian telephone/electricity accounts
australian tax file number
sale of overseas property
resignation from work in overseas country
cancellation of overseas rental property
This list is a guide only, and you may be required to provide further evidence of your migration status.

All Applicants

Further details may be requested to substantiate claims of ownership and use of the vehicle during the qualifying period.

Other documents that may be required include:

previous owner's deregistration certificate for the vehicle
vehicle insurance documents in the applicant's name
documents, in the applicant's name, in relation to the purchase of the vehicle, for example, cheque butts, bank statement/credit card statement, ATM withdrawal document, receipt from vendor of vehicle
documents, in the applicant's name, showing that the applicant paid for any maintenance or repairs to the vehicle
the applicant's passport with exit and entry stamps that indicate when the applicant left and returned to Australia and show that the applicant was continuously with the vehicle in the overseas country for the required period
proof that the applicant is currently resident in Australia
proof that the applicant returns to Australia with the vehicle
the applicant must produce a copy of both passports when dual passports are held
proof of the applicant's physical presence, continuously or intermittently, during a twelve month period in the country where the vehicle was purchased and primarily used prior to lodging a Vehicle Import Application to import the vehicle to Australia
evidence of the frequency, regularity and duration of visits to places outside the country where the vehicle was purchased and used
evidence of the maintenance by the applicant of a permanent place of abode in the overseas country during absences (eg telephone accounts, electricity bills).
documents that are not in English must be accompanied by a translation certified by a member of an accredited agency such as the National Accreditation Authority of Translators and Interpreters.
You may be required to submit original documentation (not photocopies) to confirm eligibility under the Personal Import Scheme. If the applicant declines to submit the documents requested, the Administrator will take this into account in assessing the bona fides of the application and may, as a result, refuse to issue a Vehicle Import Approval.

Applicants can contact the Department for advice on acceptable authorities to witness documents in the country where the vehicle is registered and/or used. These persons would hold an authority to witness documents similar to that of a Public Notary or Justice of the Peace in Australia. Refer to Persons Eligible to Certify Documents.

Under the Personal Import Scheme, modifications to bring the vehicle up to minimum safety standards can be deferred until you wish to register the vehicle.

For Australian registration purposes a vehicle imported under this category must:

be roadworthy; and
meet minimum safety standards
if you are eligible, a Personal Import Approval will be issued. The approval papers comprise four parts:

one copy clears the vehicle from its point of entry to Australia;
one allows you to obtain a Personal Import Plate;
one is for the registering authority; and
the fourth is for your own records and should be kept with the vehicle.

Personal Import Plates
A Personal Import Plate is evidence that the vehicle is an approved vehicle import and allows it to be registered.

Before applying for a Personal Import Plate, the vehicle must be brought up to acceptable ADR standards and the original Vehicle Import Approval headed "This copy authorises the issue of a Personal Import Plate" must be completed.

Some registering authorities will inspect your vehicle and sign a statement of compliance. Others will refer you to an authorised signatory for inspection.
The statement of compliance must be signed on the appropriate three approval documents by an authorised person.

The original signed statement of compliance which is marked for the plate engraver must be sent to the plate engraver whose address is given on the Vehicle Import Approval. There is an additional cost for the engraving of the Personal Import Plate.

Contact your State or Territory Motor Vehicle Registration Authority for details about how to have your vehicle inspected and the statement of authority signed. Full details are available on the Contacts page.

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cheers for the replies.

I'm pretty familiar with the regs as I've sent back a few cars in my time but till now they've all be RHD Japanese sports cars like FD RX-7s & EVOs etc. There's no problem with sending back a LHD car but if it's to be registered for 'on road use' it must be RHD.

My question is, can anyone recommend a company that does clean conversions. And can anyone give advice on what this might cost and how will it affect the value of the car.

Or it might suit someone holding a CAMS licence as a LHD car for racing (However it won't ever be road registerable).




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It's a race car. it cannot be registered at all, ever. So there's no need to convert it.

There are already about 40 cup cars here, all LHD.

They can be bought into the country, all taxes paid for between $80k and $120k, depending on condition and history.



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It's a race car. it cannot be registered at all, ever. So there's no need to convert it.

There are already about 40 cup cars here, all LHD.

They can be bought into the country, all taxes paid for between $80k and $120k, depending on condition and history.

So even if it's Rego'ed O/S, it still can't be rego'ed here????    :confused:

Even under personal import scheme????



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It's a race car. it cannot be registered at all, ever. So there's no need to convert it.

There are already about 40 cup cars here, all LHD.

They can be bought into the country, all taxes paid for between $80k and $120k, depending on condition and history.

oh shit...i missed the "cup" bit!! duh.

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Ah...that spoils all the fun...they are registerable here in Japan.  I think if it was brought in to OZ as a 'personal import' (meaning it has to be owned and used abroad for commuting purposes for at least 12 months) then it could be registered but would require a LHD to RHD conversion. Probably all the ones currently in OZ would have been brought in under the 'rally & race' import regs. The 'cup' is basically a stripped out RS fitted with a rollcage & plastic doors, right?

It's all starting to look like this is going to be too much trouble to consider....wish the Japanese importers would import 'exotics' in RHD!!! You can get the base models in RHD but not the high performance models....sux! 



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So even if it's Rego'ed O/S, it still can't be rego'ed here????    :confused:

Even under personal import scheme????

I'm confused too as you only need to look at this posting...which is a registered 'GT3 cup' car. Basically the same as what I'm looking at buying but already RHD...probably from the factory as such.

http://aussieexotics.com/forum/porsche/996-gt3s-for-sale-t1767.40.html 


There just might be hope for me yet! Now back to the cost of a conversion....any idea of who or what it'll cost?



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