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Offline Snowman


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Since the Octogon run rallies (Targa Tasmania, Wrest Point Targa), and Mountain series rallies have started running events under AASA insurance a number of the regulations have started to free up making enties to these events more accessable to more people.

Again in 2009 they are looking at freeing them up even further it seems and one of the main key points which may be of interest in here is the allowence of previously banned exotics under their new proposed S1 rules. Looks like it's time to cage up your Enzo and head for the hills.

But the new rule changes have freed up enough to allow me to run my car in it's current state next year (with Jamezilla in the silly seat) so I'm looking forwards to giving a couple of events - including Targa Tas - a crack for the 1st time next year. It'd be good to see some other cars besides Porkas and EVO's down there with us.

Below is a quick press release on some of the points for the Octagon events.

Modern Technical Regulations
Whilst commonsense tells us that it is smart to retain consistency across multiple events, with the freedom that we now have to enhance the technical regulations and make them more user friendly etc, we will be making some alterations to the current M1, M2 & M3 vehicle listing to provide greater incentives to those cars that we currently only see at Targa on the very rare occasion purely as they are uncompetitive under these regulations.

The specification titles from 2009 onwards will be S1, S2 & S3 with the `S’ standing for `Specification’.  None of the major vehicles in the Modern competition will change from their current placement but vehicles from manufacturers such as HSV, FPV, BMW, AUDI & HONDA can expect some fairer treatment to hopefully encourage the owners of these cars to come to Targa in the future.

Added to this are cars at the other end of the spectrum that have not been allowed at all in the past.  These exotics will now be allowed at Targa under S1 rules as these cars are a promoters dream.  No more obvious example of this was the presence of Adam Kaplan’s Pagani Zonda at this year’s event, which caused pandemonium everywhere it went.

There are some further minor changes, which will be outlined in the Supplementary Regulations due for release in the weeks ahead.

New Competitions for 2009
Over the last two events we have implemented long-overdue structural changes to the competitions to ensure all periods of vehicles are encouraged to compete.  These changes successfully saw an increase in Category 7 cars and the return of a Vintage competition along with a return of many classic cars from earlier years.

As the years have ticked away and technology has marched on, Category 8 (like Category 7) has become increasingly uncompetitive in the Modern competition, which has lead to reducing numbers from a period that saw the rebirth of true performance cars.  Cars that once dominated the Targa roads are far and few between as owners look to keep up with the latest gear to stay competitive.

This year saw just one Category 8 car finish in the top 20!!

This fact combined with a huge growth in very late model cars and a reluctance to implement another complicated handicapping system, we have decided to restructure the Modern competition to form two competitions with a single category in each.

From 2009 the Modern competition will have a rolling time frame of six years, which includes the year of the event.  This will avoid the need to restructure again for some years to come and avoid having to introduce a Category 10, which would seem obvious but would mean the total overhaul of our timing and results systems to encompass four digit numbers let alone how silly it would look on door panels and number plates.

So for 2009, the Modern competition will be for vehicles manufactured from 1st January 2003 until the event, 2010 will be 2004 and so on with all cars being Category 9 cars. Like all categories, cars that are fortunate enough to overlap in their model range can choose and cars that now fall before the Modern cut off will still be eligible to compete in Modern if they choose to but will only be able to compete in one or the other.

The 2009 Category 8 (1992 to 2002) will form the basis of the new full podium competition, Early Modern.  This will provide owners of mid-nineties cars in particular an opportunity to compete against similar cars for an outright result.  The thinking is similar in nature to what lead to an Early/Late split in Classic, which proved very successful this year.

To tie in with this structure, Showroom will use the same cut off dates as Modern and the current split of 2WD & 4WD will become two categories within a single Showroom competition to ensure we retain three competitions for modern vehicles.

In moving to this structure we will ensure that the retained values of both Showroom and Category 9 cars are maintained; having a full competition to compete at the front in as they age rather than becoming increasingly uncompetitive in a single modern competition.

This fear of retained value has been a key reason for a general reluctance to purchase a Showroom based car and the Early Modern competition will provide a great event for these cars once they are over six years old.

Likewise, many cars such as the R32, R33 & R34 GTR’s  and Series 6 RX-7’s, long considered uncompetitive will return to the fore as two of the preferred vehicles along with early Evo’s, WRX’s and of course the mighty Porsche 996 Turbo and GT3; the Early Modern field will be as hot as any in Targa Tasmania 2009.

The Early & Late Classic, Outright Classic, Vintage Rallye and Rookie Rallye will all remain the same for 2009.
 

Supercar Club test driver.

Calder 1.04.7 Phillip Island 1.45.4 Sandown 1.19.3 Winton 1.34.3 Wakefield 1.07.8 Eastern Creek 1.50.1 Barbagallo 1.05.7 Collie 0.51.3  Nurburgring (BTG) 9.12.3
Dutton W.A. '07 Runner-Up Dutton Vic '07 Champion Targa Tas '09 Rookie Modern Champion



Offline Jamezilla


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Offline waz356


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Targa Tasmania already allows current model 911 Turbos, GT2s and Lamborghini Gallardos. Aren't these considered exotic?  :confused:



Offline Snowman


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Yes but anything which didn't have a production run of at least 2,500 units hasn't been allowed in the past.

So the REALLY exotics could never come in the past.
Supercar Club test driver.

Calder 1.04.7 Phillip Island 1.45.4 Sandown 1.19.3 Winton 1.34.3 Wakefield 1.07.8 Eastern Creek 1.50.1 Barbagallo 1.05.7 Collie 0.51.3  Nurburgring (BTG) 9.12.3
Dutton W.A. '07 Runner-Up Dutton Vic '07 Champion Targa Tas '09 Rookie Modern Champion



Offline mhh

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TT's "explanation" of the changes is baffling - I'll drop back later to see if someone can make some sense of it...



Offline Snowman


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A quick run down if you like is:

Basically in the past the cars had to be pretty close to 100% factory delivered with a few exceptions (like ECU's).

Now pretty much you can run anything on the cars as long as they were either produced by the factory as an option or meets factory specs. The might not sound like much but it is as far as costs go. It pretty much means if the factory produces something for a car - even one of the rare competiton cars - you can add it to yours or basically build it to that stardard with comparable parts.

They also now allow a free range on cooling items (oil coolers, bigger radiators, etc) which in the past has been an issue because cars without them from factory used to have a lot of temp problems which made them unsuitable for these events.

Exhaust rules have changed so you can now run 15% bigger than factory.

Competiton licenses are now included with entry - you don't need to do all the courses and tests etc.

Pretty much it just means everything is easier to get your car into the event. You still need a cage and the saftey stuff but the actual car regulations are much more user friendly.
Supercar Club test driver.

Calder 1.04.7 Phillip Island 1.45.4 Sandown 1.19.3 Winton 1.34.3 Wakefield 1.07.8 Eastern Creek 1.50.1 Barbagallo 1.05.7 Collie 0.51.3  Nurburgring (BTG) 9.12.3
Dutton W.A. '07 Runner-Up Dutton Vic '07 Champion Targa Tas '09 Rookie Modern Champion



Offline mhh

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so there's no touring categories like Classic Adelaide allowing moderns without roll cages?



Offline Snowman


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Sorry - there is absolutely a Touring class like CA - always has been. Thats what the Zonda did last year.

A friend did it last year and said the drives were "pretty brisk" :)
Supercar Club test driver.

Calder 1.04.7 Phillip Island 1.45.4 Sandown 1.19.3 Winton 1.34.3 Wakefield 1.07.8 Eastern Creek 1.50.1 Barbagallo 1.05.7 Collie 0.51.3  Nurburgring (BTG) 9.12.3
Dutton W.A. '07 Runner-Up Dutton Vic '07 Champion Targa Tas '09 Rookie Modern Champion



Offline AshSimmonds

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Oh - I thought the Zonda was more a "sweep" car for show than an entrant in a category.



Offline Snowman


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Technically the Tour Class isn't an entrant. Its just people in cars driving the same roads but with-out timing and at slower speeds (apparently).

They basically just follow the event and go to all the functions / parties.
Supercar Club test driver.

Calder 1.04.7 Phillip Island 1.45.4 Sandown 1.19.3 Winton 1.34.3 Wakefield 1.07.8 Eastern Creek 1.50.1 Barbagallo 1.05.7 Collie 0.51.3  Nurburgring (BTG) 9.12.3
Dutton W.A. '07 Runner-Up Dutton Vic '07 Champion Targa Tas '09 Rookie Modern Champion



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