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Offline 916senna

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Now three birds, one stone :D
LOL, I guess it wasn't a good joke if I have to explain it.
We have two idiots seeking a village, they argue tooth and nail about anything, I suspect they are secretly in love. I wasn't including you, but I guess we can. ménage à trois anyone :D



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LOL, I guess it wasn't a good joke if I have to explain it.
We have two idiots seeking a village, they argue tooth and nail about anything, I suspect they are secretly in love. I wasn't including you, but I guess we can. ménage à trois anyone :D

I was feeling left out.. I wasnt counting you. :D



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I wouldn't necessarily think that cutting the corner helped Hamilton a great deal. In cutting that corner he had to go over the sleeping policeman and got a bit airborne, hardly the same as just cutting across smooth tarmac. I would have thought that taking such a different line, and getting air in the process wouldn't help acceleration on the exit, or the approach to the next corner, but I can't say for sure because we didn't get that footage.

Also, I don't think they were neck and neck when Daniel came out of the pits such that you could categorically say that cutting the corner made the critical difference. Sure they were side by side momentarily, but in real time it was obvious that Hamilton's car was carrying much more speed coming out of turn 1 than the Red Bull was at pit exit so in reality Dan was not as close to Hamilton as ordinary perception might suggest.




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Better video.... Two seconds behind, like I said

https://youtu.be/ltrTUncIiHQ
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Offline Aircon

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I wouldn't necessarily think that cutting the corner helped Hamilton a great deal. In cutting that corner he had to go over the sleeping policeman and got a bit airborne, hardly the same as just cutting across smooth tarmac. I would have thought that taking such a different line, and getting air in the process wouldn't help acceleration on the exit, or the approach to the next corner, but I can't say for sure because we didn't get that footage.

Also, I don't think they were neck and neck when Daniel came out of the pits such that you could categorically say that cutting the corner made the critical difference. Sure they were side by side momentarily, but in real time it was obvious that Hamilton's car was carrying much more speed coming out of turn 1 than the Red Bull was at pit exit so in reality Dan was not as close to Hamilton as ordinary perception might suggest.

^^^^^this
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Is it legal to go outside the chicane ?

I guess so.



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Better video.... Two seconds behind, like I said

https://youtu.be/ltrTUncIiHQ

Great video. One car length at the pit exit,  then Hamilton pulled away.

If Hamilton arrived one second later Daniel would have been in front with Hamilton no way to pass. Thanks for the video.   :thumbsup:



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Great video. One car length at the pit exit,  then Hamilton pulled away.

If Hamilton arrived one second later Daniel would have been in front with Hamilton no way to pass. Thanks for the video.   :thumbsup:

That's the bit you're wrong about.... It LOOKED like 1 car length to you, but it wasn't. It was 2 seconds and I believe Lewis would have LOST time at that chicane, not gained time.
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If a driver makes a place by leaving the racing surface they can redress it by allowing the other car to retake them or a drive through penalty can be applied during the race or after the race by adding time to their race time. A driver is allowed a certain number of times to leave the racing surface without penalty but will have a penalty applied if they exceed a certain number. I am unsure if it is the same number for each circuit or the number changes depending on the track layout. I have a recollection back in the Adelaide GP days it was three times then they applied it. If Hamilton had kept himself clean to that point he would not be penalized as he did not physically gain a place at the time.

Red Bull stuffed up with the pit stop and deserved to pay the price for it. Pity for Daniel but they are a team and the team messed up.



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That's the bit you're wrong about.... It LOOKED like 1 car length to you, but it wasn't. It was 2 seconds and I believe Lewis would have LOST time at that chicane, not gained time.
What you believe about the chicane is wrong. During the race someone else did run over the chicane, gained a position and quite some distance and had to back off to give the position back.



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