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Offline wayneoh3enzo


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this Ferrari was sacrificed last Tuesday after avoiding a boy on a push bike. poor owner....   :mad:

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Dragging it back up over the rocks was an excellent idea.  If the bottom wasn't completely wrecked by going in, then coming out looked after that good and proper.   :doh:



Offline scud

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bigger issues to worry about than the floor, i'd take this scenario over hitting a child on a bike any day.

should of attached the chain to the front tow hook, much better than the front wheel.



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Is that what tow hooks are for?  Towing?   :doh:

The more I look the sillier it gets, but yes still better than taking out a human.



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bigger issues to worry about than the floor, i'd take this scenario over hitting a child on a bike any day.

should of attached the chain to the front tow hook, much better than the front wheel.

That crazy!!!  I wonder why the front wheel???

It would have to be a complete write-off going into the drink anyway. Who would want a water logged car back no matter what it was. Interior would be stuffed, not to mention the mechanicals.

I have dealt with some insurance jobs in the past with vehicles going for a swim and they normally just file it as too hard



Offline dkabab

so generally what would happen to this car if written off. would it be sold at auction? or stripped for spare parts for future insurance repairs.



Offline mondi

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so generally what would happen to this car if written off. would it be sold at auction? or stripped for spare parts for future insurance repairs.

Personally if this was mine and the insurance said it could be repaired, I don't think I would want it back.

I know of a poor bloke who got a car at auction, only to find out it was a flood damaged car.
It was never declared as flood damaged, only as a Stat write off, which means it can only be used as parts but there are channels you can go down to have it rego'ed again. Anyhoo, it was a nice enough car and did not appear to have any damage as such, but once summer came around the interior smelt like a sewer and started to grow some interesting life forms.  :eek:
Then it developed electrical and mechanical problems, pulled one of the heads off the engine to find the the bores were badly rusted. How it still ran, I do not know. 



Offline dkabab

if something is written off from flood damage, and can be re registered, would it be that hard? obviously the car would need to be stripped and dryed out thoroughly for longevity of the car, and of course the electronics... but that asside, getting it re registered, it would be structurly sound (no physical damage) so it would be easyish....?



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if something is written off from flood damage, and can be re registered, would it be that hard? obviously the car would need to be stripped and dryed out thoroughly for longevity of the car, and of course the electronics... but that asside, getting it re registered, it would be structurly sound (no physical damage) so it would be easyish....?

The laws have changed and are a lot stricter now. A repairable write off would normally just have cosmetic damage, etc but the repair cost was not going to be justified due to the market value of the vehicle. Buy a repairable write off cheap at the auctions, do the work yourself and you can have a cheap car but even that is harder now days due to the declining values of second hand cars. Who wants to buy a wreck, spend 3 months fixing it and putting it back on the road when for not a lot more you could probably buy a good one on the S/H market.

But I digress, a Stat write off would probably be a flood damaged vehicle or a structurally damaged vehicle. If the vehicle is classed as Stat write off, it goes into a database so it can be kept track of. In order to put a Stat write off vehicle back on the road, it needs to be engineered and VASSed, in Victoria at least. The repairs have to be done back to OEM specs. An example, lets say a chassis x-member was originally held on with 4 spot welds, the engineer would want to see this welded back on as close as possible to OEM specs. It does not have to be spot welded back on but maybe plug welded with the plug welds as close as possible to were the original spot welds were. You could not, say, seam weld the x-member on, because this changes the structural strength of the chassis and in doing so would effect the crumple zones of the car. Once the repairs are given the all clear - the vehicles VIN could be removed from the database as Stat write off.

In the case of a flood damaged car, this would not be a huge problem because as you say there is no structural damage so passing an inspection would not be too hard. But being flood damaged it does cause quite a lot of damage. Diffs, gearboxes and engines would be full of water, the interior would have to be fully stripped, as in seat covers off the frames, etc. There would be hundreds of small components in the car that would be full of water, which may work OK when dried out but would have a significant reduction in life span. Not to mention the increase in body corrosion due to water getting into place were it normally wouldn't with wet weather driving, etc.



Phew.  Out of breath now.   :)


* edit *   Just to note - flood damaged cars normally don't have a lot of physical damage as such, unless they have gone for a swim and bumped into a few things as they went. And because they are pretty much undamaged, it makes them an easy target for a quick and easy "rebirth". They may present well and seem reliable to start with but not far down the track they turn nasty and will open a rather large money pit under them. 



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This car is back out and about somewhere - there have been a few for sale ads which some thought *may* have been the car, but no confirmations.

http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f3/must-see-all-13475/

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As you can see the water got very high and was up their for 18 hours before getting pumped out.

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